Austin Mexican Blanket Glass Job

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Video of a cool process, well done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GygmBL5WHM

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that was fun

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That was a pretty sick video!! That is something that would look fun to try... It wouldn't work for Epoxy? As i understand it, the Epoxy would blend and not look good, Right? I might have to try some experimentation....

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Very cool process, thanks for sharing. I'm the yankee with the overalls that was in yer shop today. You are a craftsman and i'll do some free advertising up north for ya with the stickers yer guys gave me! Hopin to get in down hatteras tomorrow with my brother, he's caught the bug too, we'll be riding our simmons attempts in the north wind soup..d

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dpicton wrote:

Very cool process, thanks for sharing. I'm the yankee with the overalls that was in yer shop today.

I am not Austin. I just posted a link to the vid because I thought the Sways gang would dig it.

I've done a similar technique using those squeeze bottles that restauarants use for ketchup.

When the resin hardens in them, you can smack them til the stuff cracks and falls out. Making them re-usable.

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Faaaaaaarking awesome video, thanks so much for sharing. My next board will have some colour, maybe not that much and nowhere near as good, but the coke bottle trick is sweet.


 


>Much appreciated guys!!.

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Sheesh, I posted this a week ago.   http://www2.swaylocks.com/forums/austin-video


 


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Swany, my experience has been that the very thing that makes epoxy such a joy to lam with (the ease of satuating the cloth) makes it blend at the seams of mulitple colors so that the color separation is not as good. It will work to some degree, but you really have to resist over working it after the colors are poured and that makes it tough to get the excess off the board and keep it light.

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GregTate wrote:

Swany, my experience has been that the very thing that makes epoxy such a joy to lam with (the ease of satuating the cloth) makes it blend at the seams of mulitple colors so that the color separation is not as good. It will work to some degree, but you really have to resist over working it after the colors are poured and that makes it tough to get the excess off the board and keep it light.

Hey Greg...

So true...

Try this next time:

Using  ( Mikes suggested)  dollar store squeeze bottles full of each individual color,,, squeeze on each line or what ever shape you want to do, but leave  approx. 1/4" between each color... Re apply resin as req'd on any sections of the lines that might still look dry...

. Put the stripes ( or whatever the  pattern is) on heavy,,,, and let them soak in and flatten out on their own which closes the gaps in between. them...

Use a standard or slow epoxy, as you'll need time to let the epoxy soak in by itself...    Once you're as happy as you can be with the saturation of each color into the cloth, pour on a bucket of clear over the entire board, let it soak in as well with out moving it around too much... Once things look pretty well wet out, lightly squeegee off the excess epoxy in a direction parallel to the lines or paterns... If there are still any small gaps between the colored stripes this is actually a good thing , as the clear poured over top of this hit's the bare section of glass between the stripes,,, improving separation

. I'd also  well -seal the blank with epoxy micro's before piling on all this goop....

O.K.   Now you've got a board loaded with excess resin right... Well this is where the peel ply and the breather material, used in the vacuum lamination process, remove the majority of the excess resin, and most of the muddy top layer of epoxy which was floating on the surface of the glass after spreading out the clear mixture....

Any way you look at it,,,, epoxy mexican blanket,,, or other heavily patterned  color jobs are a waste of good and expensive epoxy due to the fact you end up using quite a bit more than you would doing a standard clear lam job....The vacuum bag removes the excess and cleans up some of the mud, , if you can live with wasting epoxy in the first place...

I'd prefer to do a smaller, single / layer ,, glass / inlay color section on either the deck or the bottom of the board  this way first,,, then bag off the excess,,, then lam the additional layers of glass on top of that with clear epoxy leaving the rail laps clear as well... Less waste of colored resin....

Rail laps in swirl type of epoxy mixes look muddy most of the time anyway,imho,,,, at least for us amateurs..........

I most likely won't ever mix epoxy resin colors in a single bucket ever again either... I've learned my lesson....

Great video there, Austin !!  Epoxy can't duplicate that !

By the way, and most importantly.......

Have a Very Merry and Happy Holidays   Greg !!

And the same to All here at Sway's!!!

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Excellent, Kiterider.  I will give that a go on a test panel. 

As a quick data point, I tried to do a resin swirl on a 6 inch wide strip to use on the rails of a bamboo board (cut lap).  I did the resin colors of the board thinking I'd have more control and the resin wouldn't move around as much.  I carefully applied the colors using squirt bottles and bumped the colors up against each other as I worked down the cloth strip.  Still turned muddy.  Just to finish the story, I picked up the strip and laid it over the rail and later cut it to the tape line.  Marginal color.

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I watched the Austin movie about 6 times. I called my friend MarkSSD....


"Hey Mark , I think we can pull this off with Epoxy".......Mark says OK...How about Sunday afternoon......


I read every post..... I made some dumb comments.......We see the tricks....some from Austin...some from Kite..........


It's cold in Southern California right now.........It's 11:45 pm....I'm running around with the space heater trying to get the hot coat to kick.......I'll post photos soon..........

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hey lets see the flip side,,,


any comments on the "useing epoxy" concept?

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Ohhhh........Shitttttt.........


I think we did it .................epoxy....color....oh yeah!


 


 

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    Howzit stingray, I really like the bigger white seperations since it looks more like a Mexican Blanket and it just so happens I have 2 of them on my bed right now and they are the thick warm ones. Aloha,Kokua

Aloha, Kokua

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Whoops, Double post!!

Why do you have to go through this torture, everytime you make this mistake??

A "delete "  function would be nice...

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Hello Kiterider ......got photos?


You seem to know what you are talking about.....we're talking about color here....talk is cheap....


I've never done a Mexican Blanket......When I pull it off I'll post It....I'd love to see what you have done with epoxy resin and color.....Fun stuff....


 


Stingray


 

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Wow.....


Love me or hate me......We did it! .....We did it!.......Epoxy,,,,,


 Wow......................


 

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Looks great!

Very nice separation..

I have'nt started the test panels yet, been busy painting  the upstairs bathroom.... I have been thinking about epoxy and color for quite some time, and I have some ideas that might work for my next boards...

Where did you get all the pastel colors?? All I can find around here that's designed for epoxy is 5 primary colors and that's it... Did you use a peel ply?  It really does pull out a lot of mud.. And that's a fact..

I don't hate,,,, I'm happy you're happy... It can only get better and easier for you from now on...

I have some other tricks I've been milling over, I'll encorporate them in with my test squares...After all.. 

Talk is cheap...lol ..... And it's time to do a lot less ...

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kiterider wrote:


Looks great!


Very nice separation..


I have'nt started the test panels yet, been busy painting  the upstairs bathroom.... I have been thinking about epoxy and color for quite some time, and I have some ideas that might work for my next boards...


Where did you get all the pastel colors?? All I can find around here that's designed for epoxy is 5 primary colors and that's it... Did you use a peel ply?  It really does pull out a lot of mud.. And that's a fact..


I don't hate,,,, I'm happy you're happy... It can only get better and easier for you from now on...


I have some other tricks I've been milling over, I'll encorporate them in with my test squares...After all.. 


Talk is cheap...lol ..... And it's time to do a lot less ...



 


Hello Kiterider ,


My jokes don't always come out right...I Apologize for being rude.


The board I posted was hand laminated with Resin Research Kwick Kick Epoxy Resin. We did use some of your ideas........


I'll post more later......we got lucky...I was really worried about mudd.....


Stingray

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No foul Stingray.... No problem!!

The K.K. stays in place better and doesn't flow out and mud as quickly improving separation  The quicker set times help as well...

Unfortunately, I'm not quite fast enough to bag my lams with K.K. yet, at least I don't think so... I'd hate to find aout the hard way..

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The squirt bottle thing used to be a big secret, one of Donnie Mulhern's tricks from 1964.

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shaping used to be a secret, too

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still is, where I work.


back to pretty colors.....

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I have some epoxy mexican blanket inspired work to contribute here in the next day or so. It's not as good as the last pictures posted but it's also my 2nd board and first time working with more than one color resin.Just waiting on the hotcoat to kick here as well. Once done pictures will be up.


I wasted a lot of epoxy on this one! 

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A space heater is a good idea. I have been using a hairdryer constantly moving about 3 -4 ft off to create some heat.

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I used a Harbor Freight hot gun and blew oil droplets all over my lam.

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That would suck!

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GregTate wrote:


I used a Harbor Freight hot gun and blew oil droplets all over my lam.



ahhh, geez, Greg, that sucks... i'm glad you posted this tho... i was considering getting one

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     Howzit chris, What I want to know is where did the oil come from? I don't think heat guns use oil plus before you ever use one blow it out with your compressor to get all the dust that collects in it. Aloha,Kokua

Aloha, Kokua

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Here is the fixed link to the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYzYzIQEBFg


 


Thanks,


Austin

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[img_assist|nid=1056293|title=First attempt at a mexican blanket and its epoxy!|desc=|link=none|align=center|width=640|height=480]

I think I logged on to sway's at the right time, just finished shaping my 9th board, and promised my girlfriend we'd glass it together over the holiday.  After seeing a mexican blanket glass job on a board at the beach I think she was set on trying one, not to back down from a challenge I agreed!  Read this thread the day before we did it, was slightly worried by the comments about epoxy but the tips shared and the video really helped.  I also added my own little technique (someone has probably done this before), which was to cut an old squeegee into half inch lengths and used them to fix the colors individually to try and reduce any muddy looking tints when the filler bucket was poured over.  Really pleased with the result, think I should leave the glassing to my girlfriend she was brilliant did most of it on her own (first time ever fiber glassing too), whilst I prepped the epoxy as we went.  So thanks guys your advise has been ace...not just got to hope my finish coat doesn't  fish eye like the last 4 boards :-S (still working out how to put pictures into this...not sure it'll be very clear)

Happy new year to you all!

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