...and you're correct about the shaping,but Ben told me indiscretly that Dennis was the designer,but what the hay were in the right ball park........As I stated in my first post that I patterned my hybrid fish after Larry's(Thanks for the pics.I haven't seen one in 20+ years or so)twinnies......If you don't believe me check #200 in the board archives ,6 foot range of boards.it's scary how close I got by memory only. (oh yeah I do have a set of killer templates to help me) .......Back to MR he capped on a good thing but was far from the originator.Later at T&C EITHER Glenn or Dennis came up with a winged swallow tail twin fin that was more pulled in for faster island type breaks that would set the stage for further tweeking of the legendary fish/twinfin...........can you tell me the rider that T&C promoted to carry this new winged swallowtail twin fin?This is a great thread !!!!!!!!!!!Herb
.........I know Stacy,haven't seen him in a long while,he dated one of my old girl friends back in the day.........I still keep in touch with her........I'll see if she keeps in touch with him.Herb
Maybe Dane K. can you tell me the rider that T&C promoted to carry this new winged swallowtail twin fin?This is a great thread !!!!!!!!!!!Herb
I remember Dane Kealoha RIPPING backdoor on a 5'8" twinfin
Great thread! I know there were many that produced pointed nose fishes right around the time of Clydes. Tom Overlin was another in Santa Cruz. Just seems Clydes was the one that popularized the thing. Likewise it was MR that popularized the twin in the late 70's, not LB. Technically Tim Briers won the US Championships on a 3 fin that I designed in 1978, three years before Simon. And Brewer had three fin designs long before that. But it was not me that changed surfboards. It was Simon.
...Greg,Does it really matter now? Not really,But I would like to keep it straight.MR saw a good thing and popularized them.As far as Hawaii and most of the west coast goes, T&C was the first to tweek the fish into a twin,but we all know Simmons was decades ahead of everyone.History.got to love it.Herb
You're all right...someone needs to make a movie about this design. Doesn't Warren Bolster have footage from the Sunset Beach era lying around somewhere?Don't mean to throw any further fuel on the debate but I have a question. This is more for the old time HB guys really. When I left Oahu to attend college on the mainland, I seem to recall another guy named Carl Hayward down on Main Street. Seems that he also carried "rocket fishes". Where does he play in the fish's development history?
......Yeah carl was there.Got to go now maybe SB can dial you in or..............................I'LL BE BACK !!!!!!!!!!Herbinator
kboy54, I`m currently working on a couple of projects for Warren. When he returns from Tavarua later in February, I`ll ask him about this subject. Warren`s been a witness to so many things that you`d almost suspect he was in two places at the same time...
Used to get boards from Carl Hayward when i was attending OCC......not sure how he plays into history but i remember him being pretty stoked when the whole retro fish thing was coming back. He told me "i get to break out all my old templates". Hes the warehouse manager at Hurley now.