Have to look no further then Andy Irons to see the tragedy of bi-polar, self-medicated behavior.
From the National Institute of Mental Health:
"Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An
estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in
four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year.1"
I mentioned earlier my oldest grandchild has been just diagnosed with Aspergers. His father, our oldest son, struggled with issues for years before getting his act together. We took him to psychiatrists, group counseling, did everything we could, he remained a disruptive force in our family all the way until he moved out after high school. He started abusing drugs as a teen and his 20's were spent at raves and going to college when he showed up, somehow managed to graduate college 9 years later.
These days he is a really good father, works his ass off as a software engineer, and thanks us regularly for standing by him while he put the family through so much stress.
No point, no moral, just is what it is. People are born with the hand their given. Some get it together, some struggle, some just fade. All we can do is give everything we can give and hope it is enough, and that somehow they can pull themselves through all the chop and make it safely to smoother waters.
My wife is an austism therapist, now she has me tuned into the characteristics that go along with the autism spectrum, when we are out she often shows me persons who are on the "spectrum", many of her clients fathers show indicators of the disorder.
I worked with a quasi computer science genius, he constantly washed his hands in acetone, avoided any human physical contact, I made the mistake of snatching a pepperoncini from his sub sandwich one day, he tossed it in the trash rather that touch it. We were all sub human to him as we were all stupid, sorry we couldn't pull our IQ's up to 160. Sadly, my wife suffers from bi-polar herself, but with knowledge comes compassion, she will let me know when she feels herself spiraling into depression, there is nothing I can do to stop the process, but I let her know I am always there and will not emotionally abandon her while she rides it out.
Aspergers affected persons usually fall into the accountant, engineer, mathematician, fields where an action always results in a determinable result
i am truly sorry for your loss.
hong kong................i loved hong kong.
i'm sure it's changed since my days of visit.
I'll just add that with milder forms of bipolar it is important to get plenty of regular sleep, a healthy diet, regular exercise, and minimize the stress. Mike
My wife would give a nut for a full nights sleep, as a victim of parental incest she sleeps with one eye open literally, depression steals sleep, leaving those with it wanting to NOT get out of bed at times. In her younger days the result was alcohol and drug abuse, anything to self medicate. We all get depressed from time to time, but thankfully I have never been one to dive into the bottomless spiral
This thread has taken a heavy turn...
So many of us who deal with first, second, and/or third hand contact
with mental health issues...
In my work I speak to colleges about it frequently, if and when one looks like
a duck (not obviously physically disabled), walks like a duck (see previous),
and talks like a duck (no obvious mental/verbal disability - upon minimal
conversation), then most people expect they to act like a duck...
Which, as my grandfather may have said, is, "put near impossible,"
for those with significant differences in brain functioning due to whatever the
"cause:" mental illness, differences like Autism Spectrum
disorder/Asperger's, ADD/ADHD, drug abuse, etc. etc.
I was just talking to my beloved Sally about this, and said, "I've
never, ever, heard anyone suggest, nor have I read, they are glad the person
killed themselves,." Everyone would like to have helped... if
Love, peace, and understanding in the new year -
"Aspergers affected persons usually fall into the accountant, engineer,
mathematician, fields where an action always results in a determinable
Higher Functioning Aspergers, HFA, is most common in folks with above average IQ, so not surprising the fields they best function in. Usually their core issues are dealing socially, have problems with empathy and emotions, function quite well in objective environments. Research points to slightly abnormal brain physiology.
Very common for young kids who suffer some sort of traumatic brain injury to later be diagnosed with HFA. My grandchild was an absolutely normal kid until he suffered a dangerous brain clot at age 4 and began having dozens of micro seizures a day, got diagnosed, endured a 9 hour highly traumatic brain surgery to remove the clot deep in his brain, was never quite the same after, having had his hard wiring severely disrupted. The older he got, the more challenging the social conditions of school became (kid is hella smart), the more difficult it became for him to function fully and happily.
Aspergers, bi-polar, depression...our wives, husbands, children and grandchildren, good human beings doing the best they can in a world that is so challenging for them, deserving of all the love we can give them.
If anyone here can get their hands on a late Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders and spend enough time with any of us, I can just about guarantee that each and every one of us is diagnosable in one or more categories. It's a damn thick book and 'they' (the psychiatrists) wrote it, in part, to establish specific diagnostic codes for billing and administrative purposes... I.E. if they can pin a diagnosis on you, they can bill you or your insurance carrier for it.
I'm not trying to take away from the significance of a suicide. I'm just saying that bringing up various types of psychiatric disorders is a slippery slope.
I think I get what you are saying, John. That book and billing process might be where the 25 % of all Americans stat comes from.
Jim, that's a heavy card hand to deal with. My suggestion is based on the recommendations of a family member with a mild form of bipolar disorder. Not a cure. Just a way to help manage the symptoms. Kind of like managing type 2 diabetes. Her analogy. Not mine. Mike
I have severe sleep apnea, depression, coronary heart disease, among other disorders. My foolishness growing up led to many of my heath problems, and I accept the consequences. Many of my peers didn't get this far.
I can't remember the last time I slept through a night even when I wear my CPAP. It's been a very long time. Lack of sleep really messes you up and if you add depression it can get hard. I have my meds and a great family. I have the waves to ride and the boards I hack out. If I can get through a few more years working in the corporate world, I can retire with good benefits. It's hard sometimes though when you get on a down slope and you're tired and then something happens like you get sick or hurt. That's when it's really hard to deal with all the shit.