Well, it's only taken a few years for some of the truth to come out. This is part of the reason why I decided to stop shaping for a bit. He is not the only one doing it. Finally realized that I wasn't going to let the actions of others stop me from doing what I love. Back at it now with a much better perspective. These guys will come and go, have seen it multiple times throughout the years. Doesn't do any good to hate.
"The only thing we can control in this life is how we react to it" ...
The Truth is that Board builders have been stealing from each other since the first guy made a wood board. Some are just more blatant about then others
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According to Mikki Dora Malibu went to the Dogs in 1964. The Chumash Indians will tell you it was 1664.
I do not use my real name on the internet. I have nothing to sell. You do not use your real name. Maybe you could sell more boards if people knew who you are???
You imply in your post that a certian "pro" is "stealing".....but you never give his name.....and then you post a link to his web page...duh. duhhhhh. duh.
A Pro surfer must own 100's of surfboards......and a guy at this level must work with more than one shaper.......Thanks for the link...I bet over 500 people hit that web page this weekend thanks to you...........Why do you dis-like this guy? Whatever he was looking at in the dinner is easy pickings for a guy at that level....
You sound like a pro Shaper...do you have a web page? Are your surfboards awesome? I just bought a Bruce Jones longboard from the Swaylocks adds. I'm really stoked with my own shapes...and I'm really stoked to buy a real longboard shaped by a real Pro!........Ray.
1. Ray, where do you get off blasting someone who is not calling you out? I will do it for you, he is talking about Twiggy. Are you Twiggy? If so, then yeah, you are a douche. If not, why did you post? This thread is about copyists. People who come on Sways and ask for numbers, or walk into a surfboard shop (not a clothing shop with a couple of boards in a rack and a few hanging from the ceiling) but a real surfshop or warehouse with a tape measure and try to copy some board from a shaper/company with a lot more experience than they have. That's not cool, and the person that does that is a douche!
2. Pros don’t own hundreds of boards. Where did you hear that? If a Pro is “given” a quiver of boards the ones they don’t like always go into the used racks with their name on it so it can be sold to someone who likes/wants to surf like that guy. Economics of scale.
3. How many guns have you shaped? How many boards? I do 30-40 some odd boards a year, since 1968, don’t profess to be a professional, haven’t shaped for a pro on tour (but some retired ones) so I know what works in most breaks I have surfed and what doesn’t, but the two times I have been to the Islands in massive surf (when I was a lot younger) did I take my own boards? No, I went to someone who knew how to surf & shape a good big wave board.
4.You didn’t know Bruce, I did, and I don’t like it that you use him as an example. He (if he were here) wouldn’t like it either. Did you know that Bing, Harbour, Lance, Bruce & a lot of other greats posted here on Sways under their own and an assumed name in the past? Why don’t the greats and the new underground greats post here? Because it’s always some idiot that is tearing them down or ignoring what they have to offer as unimportant based on the 40 to 50 boards they have done in their entire lifetime. Lay off the beverages when you post and you will make more sense. I have liked the boards you have posted that you made yourself and most of your comments except on this thread. Keep it up, and try to find the Gems on Sways amidst the pig poo. Just my 2c…..
So, new anonomous poster stops by with a story, some accusations and enough info pinpoint the person he's accusing. He remains anonomous. Just seems like a load of bullshit to me. Why hasn't this thread been deleted or sent to the sin bin?
"The only thing we can control in this life is how we react to it" ...
always good to see you on here RCone.
would love to hear your input on what makes a good gun.
The Truth is that Board builders have been stealing from each other since the first guy made a wood board. Some are just more blatant about then others
According to Mikki Dora Malibu went to the Dogs in 1964. The Chumash Indians will tell you it was 1664.
My comments are for Fin freak.
I do not use my real name on the internet. I have nothing to sell. You do not use your real name. Maybe you could sell more boards if people knew who you are???
You imply in your post that a certian "pro" is "stealing".....but you never give his name.....and then you post a link to his web page...duh. duhhhhh. duh.
A Pro surfer must own 100's of surfboards......and a guy at this level must work with more than one shaper.......Thanks for the link...I bet over 500 people hit that web page this weekend thanks to you...........Why do you dis-like this guy? Whatever he was looking at in the dinner is easy pickings for a guy at that level....
You sound like a pro Shaper...do you have a web page? Are your surfboards awesome? I just bought a Bruce Jones longboard from the Swaylocks adds. I'm really stoked with my own shapes...and I'm really stoked to buy a real longboard shaped by a real Pro!........Ray.
I don’t know where to start, but here goes….
1. Ray, where do you get off blasting someone who is not calling you out? I will do it for you, he is talking about Twiggy. Are you Twiggy? If so, then yeah, you are a douche. If not, why did you post? This thread is about copyists. People who come on Sways and ask for numbers, or walk into a surfboard shop (not a clothing shop with a couple of boards in a rack and a few hanging from the ceiling) but a real surfshop or warehouse with a tape measure and try to copy some board from a shaper/company with a lot more experience than they have. That's not cool, and the person that does that is a douche!
2. Pros don’t own hundreds of boards. Where did you hear that? If a Pro is “given” a quiver of boards the ones they don’t like always go into the used racks with their name on it so it can be sold to someone who likes/wants to surf like that guy. Economics of scale.
3. How many guns have you shaped? How many boards? I do 30-40 some odd boards a year, since 1968, don’t profess to be a professional, haven’t shaped for a pro on tour (but some retired ones) so I know what works in most breaks I have surfed and what doesn’t, but the two times I have been to the Islands in massive surf (when I was a lot younger) did I take my own boards? No, I went to someone who knew how to surf & shape a good big wave board.
4.You didn’t know Bruce, I did, and I don’t like it that you use him as an example. He (if he were here) wouldn’t like it either. Did you know that Bing, Harbour, Lance, Bruce & a lot of other greats posted here on Sways under their own and an assumed name in the past? Why don’t the greats and the new underground greats post here? Because it’s always some idiot that is tearing them down or ignoring what they have to offer as unimportant based on the 40 to 50 boards they have done in their entire lifetime. Lay off the beverages when you post and you will make more sense. I have liked the boards you have posted that you made yourself and most of your comments except on this thread. Keep it up, and try to find the Gems on Sways amidst the pig poo. Just my 2c…..
So, new anonomous poster stops by with a story, some accusations and enough info pinpoint the person he's accusing. He remains anonomous. Just seems like a load of bullshit to me. Why hasn't this thread been deleted or sent to the sin bin?
what a surprise, another senseless pissing match on Sway's
where the increasingly severe humour drought continues on
visions of cranky old men lined up on the porch at the retirement home
arguing loudly over whose rocking chair can rock fastest
no design talk.
all mudslinging.
thanks for the suggestion Mako.
I should be a moderator. ;^}
Holly shit !!!
Sorry I missed this BS on the general disscuuuuuuuush
Deep in the bowles of Sway's
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
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