DETOUR--------> Before I go down the Pig road, I'm going to build a 5' 8'' BroomTail Fish, for my nephew. This board will be similar, and smaller than the one I built for Rooster. Tomorrow, Aug. 18th, I'll have a ''counciling session'' with my nephew, which will determine the direction that the details of the shaping will take.
I am excited to see how these turn out. I have always admired the look of these boards, but have never gotten the chance to ride one, or even the slightest clue on how to make a proper one.
Hi Bill, looks like an interesting project. I’m always intrigued by some of the old designs and their modern interpretations. This sort of thing is interesting me more and more as I grow older. Anyway, Please excuse this if it seems like a stupid question, but what’s the difference between a Pig and an Egg?
...... but what’s the difference between a Pig and an Egg?
The ears, and the snout. Any board with the WP substantially behind center, is an outright Pig, or a modified Pig. Example: The Hobie classic Phil Edwards Model, of the mid 1960's, was a modified Pig. Though it did not look like a Pig. All the foregoing, is IMO.
I just don’t see it. Phil’s model was what became know as a 3/4 Speed. Rick, Barry K, Bing, Brewer and most notably Michael Hynson all did something similar. The difference was the lack of hips and the down rail tail in Phil’s Model.
I just don’t see it............ The difference was the lack of hips and the down rail tail in Phil’s Model.
My referance was to the mid 60's PE model. The WP was +/- 5% of board length, BEHIND center. On a 9' 6'' board, that was 5.75 inches behind center. On a 10' 0'' board, that was 7.2 inches behind center. The PE model, of that era, DID have a noticable break into the rail line into the tail, which constituted a hip. In the 80's/ 90's period, the design was modified to a WP @ center design. To the untrained eye, it looked the same as earlier versions. But it was not.
As they were all handshapes even in the 90’s there were sometimes a little variation in the rail mostly in the tail. Otherwise no difference. And not “Pigs”..
Really? Never doubt me. I know my way around this style of board, and Phil's designs. I didn't realize the ''Pig Roots'' of the design myself, until I'd been building them for over 40 years.
DETOUR--------> Before I go down the Pig road, I'm going to build a 5' 8'' BroomTail Fish, for my nephew. This board will be similar, and smaller than the one I built for Rooster. Tomorrow, Aug. 18th, I'll have a ''counciling session'' with my nephew, which will determine the direction that the details of the shaping will take.
I just want to make sure this thread doesn't fall through the cracks.
I'm even more interested in the 5'8" than the originally intended pigs (though I sure hope those come to fruition as well).
I am excited to see how these turn out. I have always admired the look of these boards, but have never gotten the chance to ride one, or even the slightest clue on how to make a proper one.
Hi Bill, looks like an interesting project. I’m always intrigued by some of the old designs and their modern interpretations. This sort of thing is interesting me more and more as I grow older. Anyway, Please excuse this if it seems like a stupid question, but what’s the difference between a Pig and an Egg?
If you look on the Interislands surf shop web site in Honolulu you will see examples of both modern and classic pigs
I just don’t see it. Phil’s model was what became know as a 3/4 Speed. Rick, Barry K, Bing, Brewer and most notably Michael Hynson all did something similar. The difference was the lack of hips and the down rail tail in Phil’s Model.
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As they were all handshapes even in the 90’s there were sometimes a little variation in the rail mostly in the tail. Otherwise no difference. And not “Pigs”..
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