I tried the "Orange" because I like the strength of PU, but was hoping to get the board a little closer to the weight of EPS. I thought the heavy lam schedule would make up for the lighter density foam.
Lowell- Thanks for that tip. I'll give them a call before my next build.
Ambrose-I think the "Black" might be a little too heavy. Depending on whether I can get the Arctic's, I might just go back to the "Red" or maybe even try a "Blue" before I go black.
FWIW A few different people that I trust have told me that blue density foam often nets a board equally light or lighter than a red density blank. Due to the amount of resin that the different foams soak up...
Maybe if you want to do the orange density you should do a deck veneer?
Conditions looked good for kiting the last couple weeks... Did you get some?
Chris - I did use a cherry veneer & as mentioned in previous post a heavy lam schedule. I won't use an Orange again.The bummer is that I still have one Orange left over. Hopefully I can sell it.
I previously used a red or I might try a blue. I'm also considering trying a different brand.
Yes- I got out the last 3 days @ A-Beach. Waves didn't have a very good shape. Seemed like a mixed swell was messing it up. Went up to Arroyo yesterday. Real nice o/h waves but wind was pretty flukey .
i make some kite for strapless kite surfing. talk to some kite board builder that come back to eps+thick lam after pu/pe experiments. with foam core for durability, no matter density, kite need though skin against dings and stiff place under feet against foot dents. at lightest density eps have a better élastic limite in compression than pu. with so much reinforcement you don't care (feel) foam dampening any more. i go with 1.5lb eps core, cheap, light.
I've built Compsand (eps/divinicell) windsurf boards in the past. While they are lighter & stronger/stiffer, they are alot more work. The PU with epoxy resin & veneer top decks was my compromise (strength/$/easy to build).
On Arctic you will be looking at Green — Standard, Yellow—lite, Orange— Super Lite. I have sold lots of Yellows and everybody seems to prefer them. The Green is too heavy for most of my Shapers who do Shortboards. I was selling quite a few Orange for awhile, but everybody seems to have settled on Yellow. Never had anyone complain about denting on an Arctic or a Millennium. Between those two Manufacturers I have probably sold 500 plus over the last 3 or 4 years. I have shaped lots of US Blanks and would shape them again if they were all I could get, like when I lived on Maui. But they are not my preferred blank. I prefer harder foam. Once you get used to shaping it; There is nothing to it. Granted US Blanks are harder than Clark was and whiter too. But IMHO softer than their current competitors.. Lowel
Pretty sure your problem is using orange density foam.
Use blue at least
Core + glassing > core or glassing
THIS...
I tried the "Orange" because I like the strength of PU, but was hoping to get the board a little closer to the weight of EPS. I thought the heavy lam schedule would make up for the lighter density foam.
Lowell- Thanks for that tip. I'll give them a call before my next build.
Ambrose-I think the "Black" might be a little too heavy. Depending on whether I can get the Arctic's, I might just go back to the "Red" or maybe even try a "Blue" before I go black.
FWIW A few different people that I trust have told me that blue density foam often nets a board equally light or lighter than a red density blank. Due to the amount of resin that the different foams soak up...
Maybe if you want to do the orange density you should do a deck veneer?
Conditions looked good for kiting the last couple weeks... Did you get some?
Chris - I did use a cherry veneer & as mentioned in previous post a heavy lam schedule. I won't use an Orange again.The bummer is that I still have one Orange left over. Hopefully I can sell it.
I previously used a red or I might try a blue. I'm also considering trying a different brand.
Yes- I got out the last 3 days @ A-Beach. Waves didn't have a very good shape. Seemed like a mixed swell was messing it up. Went up to Arroyo yesterday. Real nice o/h waves but wind was pretty flukey .
Apologies for not reading before commenting.
i make some kite for strapless kite surfing. talk to some kite board builder that come back to eps+thick lam after pu/pe experiments. with foam core for durability, no matter density, kite need though skin against dings and stiff place under feet against foot dents. at lightest density eps have a better élastic limite in compression than pu. with so much reinforcement you don't care (feel) foam dampening any more. i go with 1.5lb eps core, cheap, light.
I've built Compsand (eps/divinicell) windsurf boards in the past. While they are lighter & stronger/stiffer, they are alot more work. The PU with epoxy resin & veneer top decks was my compromise (strength/$/easy to build).
On Arctic you will be looking at Green — Standard, Yellow—lite, Orange— Super Lite. I have sold lots of Yellows and everybody seems to prefer them. The Green is too heavy for most of my Shapers who do Shortboards. I was selling quite a few Orange for awhile, but everybody seems to have settled on Yellow. Never had anyone complain about denting on an Arctic or a Millennium. Between those two Manufacturers I have probably sold 500 plus over the last 3 or 4 years. I have shaped lots of US Blanks and would shape them again if they were all I could get, like when I lived on Maui. But they are not my preferred blank. I prefer harder foam. Once you get used to shaping it; There is nothing to it. Granted US Blanks are harder than Clark was and whiter too. But IMHO softer than their current competitors.. Lowel
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