thanks for that catch. I'm not sure why I was confused but I thought you said flat to vee in your original post. I will admit I was confused at that, but was going for it.
good thing I stopped and asked asked the question cause I left it completely flat for the night! I'll put a soft flat in it tomorrow and call it good!!
thanks again and I really do appreciate the advice/experience offered here
Thanks again Bill. Shaping is complete and I am completely stoked on this shape and design.
I would've never done flat or WP back so thanks for encouraging me to branch out a little. Your suggestions were spot on.
going to glassing this weekend.
now - follow up questions for a shape like this. Single fin box only or are these better surfed 2+1 or would a 2+1 be more or giving on a complete beginner?
I personally don't like 2+1 as I enjoy single fins or thrusters but I have no experience in a shape like this.
the only reason I don't want to put side boxes in if it doesn't matter is to keep weight down in the back half and not put more holes in the board. I hate fin boxes as I think they take away from the beauty but they are a necessary evil.
so convince me to put in side boxes or I'm rolling center fin box.
last question. Fin recommended for piggy outline / beginner? Thanks!!
.....so convince me to put in side boxes or I'm rolling center fin box.
last question. Fin recommended for piggy outline / beginner?
Per your question, I'd go with a 10.5 inch FU center box. No side fins needed. The real question is fin shape and placement, which impacts where you place your box. I will send you a PM, to expand on that topic.
Curiosity is getting the better of me.... most gliders I have observed have vee, while maybe not made for small waves, are certainly ridden in small waves. Can you elaborate?
Common since the late 60's thru current; Semi flat or slightly rolled bottom thru the chest going to flat at the rear 1/3 thru 1/4 and a very "soft" V beginning 5 or 6" in front of the fin box and running thru the fin box. Other than concave in the nose of a "Noserider" this set of bottom contours(with some minor deviation by individual shapers) was common for longboards and mid-length thru the years.
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That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
My biggest design fail to date was using a shortboard bottom on a midlength singlefin. If there was some energy in the waves and I surfed it actively it was fast and lively but I don't use boards like that for such conditions. I wanted a smooth and more casual ride, which a dead-flat bottom definitely is not.
But depending on a person's style that board could work well for others. If I added a pair of sidebites and ran the right fin combo that would be a good combo with that bottom and length.
Bill,
thanks for that catch. I'm not sure why I was confused but I thought you said flat to vee in your original post. I will admit I was confused at that, but was going for it.
good thing I stopped and asked asked the question cause I left it completely flat for the night! I'll put a soft flat in it tomorrow and call it good!!
thanks again and I really do appreciate the advice/experience offered here
Aloha Curlz,
Glad to have been helpful. I'm looking forward to hearing about your ''test ride'' experience/impressions, with a ''piggy'' design.
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Thanks again Bill. Shaping is complete and I am completely stoked on this shape and design.
I would've never done flat or WP back so thanks for encouraging me to branch out a little. Your suggestions were spot on.
going to glassing this weekend.
now - follow up questions for a shape like this. Single fin box only or are these better surfed 2+1 or would a 2+1 be more or giving on a complete beginner?
I personally don't like 2+1 as I enjoy single fins or thrusters but I have no experience in a shape like this.
the only reason I don't want to put side boxes in if it doesn't matter is to keep weight down in the back half and not put more holes in the board. I hate fin boxes as I think they take away from the beauty but they are a necessary evil.
so convince me to put in side boxes or I'm rolling center fin box.
last question. Fin recommended for piggy outline / beginner? Thanks!!
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Awesome thanks!
single it is and I'll be standing by for that PM
By the way, your bottom photo with the level, looks spot on. Very well done.
Hi Bill,
Curiosity is getting the better of me.... most gliders I have observed have vee, while maybe not made for small waves, are certainly ridden in small waves. Can you elaborate?
Common since the late 60's thru current; Semi flat or slightly rolled bottom thru the chest going to flat at the rear 1/3 thru 1/4 and a very "soft" V beginning 5 or 6" in front of the fin box and running thru the fin box. Other than concave in the nose of a "Noserider" this set of bottom contours(with some minor deviation by individual shapers) was common for longboards and mid-length thru the years.
That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
My biggest design fail to date was using a shortboard bottom on a midlength singlefin. If there was some energy in the waves and I surfed it actively it was fast and lively but I don't use boards like that for such conditions. I wanted a smooth and more casual ride, which a dead-flat bottom definitely is not.
But depending on a person's style that board could work well for others. If I added a pair of sidebites and ran the right fin combo that would be a good combo with that bottom and length.
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