volan and silane are "washers" to provide handling and adherence to the glass fibers... also volan contain chrome a relly toxic product...
The green vintage look that you are looking for was really a combination of volan glass and a particular resin. Back in the mid sixties to mid seventies we used a flat weave volan in the heavier layups ( long boards )6 or 8 oz. and Dion (6208?) Isotholic Resin,if memeory serves me. These boards were really strong because the resin had a longer cure time and in its cured state not as brittle as later resins. E glass and UV stable (modern) resins can still produce a green look but does not capture the desired old school result. We made lots of long boards with lighter layups and clear resin which neither captured the riding characteristcs nor the asthic appeal that you are trying for. Occationally someone would order a LB and want to have "the look" and we were able to blend tints combined with volan cloth to mimic the vintage look. Too bad the Dion resin is no laonger available it was a superior product. As for boat laminating resin there are many different blends from which to choose. Unless promoted most have a longer gel time. Most have a redish or brown apperance when cured and they are not necessarily made to be exposed to UV and if left uncovered with LP or gel coat will turn brown and become brittle. Most commonly used polyester resins in the marine industry are Orththolic resins, then Iso. Vynil Ester resin has some of the charachteristics of the old Dion but is not "green" There are also what are called aloys or blends which are a sort of hybrid poly/epoxy, (Hydrex). I have included a photo of my board in 1966. It was a Yater "Standard". The shapers at that time were Rennie and the late John Thurston and perhaps still John Eichert. I'm not sure who shaped it. It was a trimming machine (note the rocker) it had a polyvinyl fin perminently attached and a high density foam tail block. Because of the perspective of the photo the stringers look like a wedge but actually were parellel and about 1 " apart.I hope all this helps those who might be looking for the "vintage look" and that you have enjoyed a little bit of history. Regards TB
mmmmmmmmmmmeye candy.........yater standard w/ spoon template my favorite meal....ambrose.... i could use condiments
Tim how can you remember all that stuff after all the fumes . Must be all that Alaskan air.
Tim, do you remember when I use to come by your shop in about 76' and chat ? Iam the one that got blasted by your tolulene and had to walk around the block to" regather my self" hahaha Hey you made me an unreal wetsuit!!-Thanks--John hall
Fumes? The resperator helped. I've had careers commercial fishing and in boat building as well. There are plenty of chemicals that can get you in the surf shop and the boat shop. Making wetsuits was in a class all by itself. The glue I used to weld my suits was outlawed thankfully. The fishing was really healthy and of course actually surfing had and has it health benifits. I am thankfull that I can still fill my lungs with good clean Alaskan air. Good to hear from you John. Kirk is the photo of the Yater standard still showing. If not I'll re post it. Regards TB
Thunbnail too small.How that? TB