I'm not a big fan of nose concaves, but then I've honestly never tried them, and I'm not really a "noserider" in the sense of hanging ten, just trim up on the nose when the waves wall up. I started surfing in 1970, right at the end of the longboard era, so only recently, in my old age (ha!) started longboarding. My favorite longboard has a flat nose, flat middle, and V in the tail, soft rails all the way around, pinched rails in the middle, and pretty flat rocker. I love that board as long as the waves aren't steep and sucking out. A wave catching machine! Great at Malibu or Rincon.
Yeah I said Rincon and 'Bu, but carefully omitted said secret spot. I like to take the quarter mile hike up to the top, save $2 on parking, but prefer the waves up there.
Funny thing I have this 8-4 mini-glider type board, similar rails to the orange longboard, but hard down rails in tail, nose and tail pulled in, and belly in the nose. But it still noserides! Go figure. (again, not saying hang ten, but trimming way up on the nose)
I'm always amazed at those pics you see of guys way way up on the nose, maybe that's when the concave comes into its own.
Funny thing about "trimming on the nose" from what was taught and learned, the board (conventional) will ride at it fastest around 2 ft. back, by moving forward of that point will slow it down. The slowdown can be increased by rocker flex i.e. Yater's "Spoon" of which I love. Unfortunately didn't ride one till 71. The concave idea is really only trying to add lift, Rode Weber performers 66-67 (long story) the last had an intermediate rocker at the nose and was "the board" at the BU able to trim and get some hang time.
Sorry, back to the point, my kids ideas on the next longboard have changed from "nose rider" back to what i was doing only a quad fin. Told him “too much drag”. Watched the Mav's and was checkin' out the quivers.. So much for that theory!
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His operation was initially based under the Manhattan Beach Pier, but by 1949 he had outgrown it. And from his belly we sprang forth.
longboard quad? I've seen a few, yeah the Mav's crew seem to be into quad guns, and Robin Mair of Hanalei is another quad-gun fan.
My latest longboard (under construction) is a 9' x 22" glider (rounded pintail, pulled in nose, somewhere between a longboard and a gun) with down rails (and a "release" edge) all the way, plenty of volume, slight V in the nose, with an added bevel up front, and V in the tail flattening out behind the fins (single with sidebites).
I'm after a paddling beast, since I surf mostly crowded so. cal. point breaks, and I'm the old fart all the kids (anyone under 40) like to backpaddle. The plan shape is a copy of my 8-4 mini-glider single fin, but with completely different rails and volume distribution.
I had the design already planned out, but made some changes after talking to Steve Huerta at Fiberglass Hawaii, he was very generous with design imput and suggestions.
Ha - nobody is out there!
I'm not a big fan of nose concaves, but then I've honestly never tried them, and I'm not really a "noserider" in the sense of hanging ten, just trim up on the nose when the waves wall up. I started surfing in 1970, right at the end of the longboard era, so only recently, in my old age (ha!) started longboarding. My favorite longboard has a flat nose, flat middle, and V in the tail, soft rails all the way around, pinched rails in the middle, and pretty flat rocker. I love that board as long as the waves aren't steep and sucking out. A wave catching machine! Great at Malibu or Rincon.
His operation was initially based under the Manhattan Beach Pier, but by 1949 he had outgrown it. And from his belly we sprang forth.
Yeah I said Rincon and 'Bu, but carefully omitted said secret spot. I like to take the quarter mile hike up to the top, save $2 on parking, but prefer the waves up there.
Funny thing I have this 8-4 mini-glider type board, similar rails to the orange longboard, but hard down rails in tail, nose and tail pulled in, and belly in the nose. But it still noserides! Go figure. (again, not saying hang ten, but trimming way up on the nose)
I'm always amazed at those pics you see of guys way way up on the nose, maybe that's when the concave comes into its own.
His operation was initially based under the Manhattan Beach Pier, but by 1949 he had outgrown it. And from his belly we sprang forth.
longboard quad? I've seen a few, yeah the Mav's crew seem to be into quad guns, and Robin Mair of Hanalei is another quad-gun fan.
My latest longboard (under construction) is a 9' x 22" glider (rounded pintail, pulled in nose, somewhere between a longboard and a gun) with down rails (and a "release" edge) all the way, plenty of volume, slight V in the nose, with an added bevel up front, and V in the tail flattening out behind the fins (single with sidebites).
I'm after a paddling beast, since I surf mostly crowded so. cal. point breaks, and I'm the old fart all the kids (anyone under 40) like to backpaddle. The plan shape is a copy of my 8-4 mini-glider single fin, but with completely different rails and volume distribution.
I had the design already planned out, but made some changes after talking to Steve Huerta at Fiberglass Hawaii, he was very generous with design imput and suggestions.
Yeah, Steve is part of what makes this fun! Cool guy, Love Wade and Louie too!
So Maybe soon we'll hook up. So you know what "crazy greybeard aka oldphart" looks like... Ha.
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His operation was initially based under the Manhattan Beach Pier, but by 1949 he had outgrown it. And from his belly we sprang forth.
cool pic! Nice board's.
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His operation was initially based under the Manhattan Beach Pier, but by 1949 he had outgrown it. And from his belly we sprang forth.
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