surffoils. you are a fuc#$*g genoius!!!!
thanks for the information. life changing stuff!
I can find plenty of 2 part PVC glue, that's for sure.
So PVC glue is the most diesel stuff, even if the mat is nylon and not pvc, ay?
I guess if it will stick to non porous, slick PVC, it will stick to anything?
Also, ever mess with Haplon fabric?
thanks for all of your help!
I get several two part glue sources when I search these strings:
two part inflatable boat glue
two part inflatable boat adhesive
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Hypalon is the material they use to make inflatable boats, so yes this glue definitely sticks to Hypalon. The two part glue also sticks to Nylon, Polyester, PVC, but you have to test each sample first just to make sure.
This is a Hypalon mat. Hypalon is around 800D so its bulletproof.
Its an EPS and Carbon/ Innegra solid deck, concaved out like a Turtle shell, with two seperate pontoons that can be individually inflated thru the twin blue ports on the deck.
ever consider using a plastic welder, instead of adhesive?
something that drips hot plastic onto the joint and welds the two together, like this?
I dont think thats the right tool for this job, youre more likely to burn holes in the material. One wrong drip and the mats ruined.
The beauty of heat welding or glueing is that it provides an almost invisible join thats uniform and repeatable. With heat welding that the commercial mat makers do, theyre joining 'like' to 'like' in a clemical bond, its a homogeneous molecular connection with nothing else added and the bond is a chemical bond not based on the properties of an added product.
what kind of tool would a commercial guy use to do such a thing? Is it one of those huge heat welding machines that costs 14 grand and is the size of a band saw?
or is it something simple that can be used at home by a back yard builder?
Theres info and images on the net. You need to look for this information yourself.
Haha, sounds like poser is thinking about starting a business. Here's mine. Just finished the other night and unfortunately not ridden yet. Enjoyed the building process so much I'm already thinking about making another one. Surffoils is way ahead of any level I'm on but I'm excited to try it out. Some of my seams are scarring me but other than that it was easy and fun.
The valve I'm using is a Boston valve. Not the best choice but it is working for now. I'll try something else next time. I have some of that exact vinyl glue that Surfoil has but I did a test batch and it didn't hold well for me....maybe I'll test it again. These seams are heat sealed. The I beams are glued. Next mat will have glued I beams.
Send me your dinged, damaged, and yellowed.
great thread !
photos and useful information .... just like the 'Swaylock's of years gone by .
monkstar1, looks great, just like a bought one but even better because you made it !! You've got some skills if you're doing heat and glue joins ?! Maybe you can do a "Show and Tell " of your heat welding setup for Poser ?
That P.A. 5000 glue is a tricky beast, both sides have to be cleaned with MEK, which I got from the boat company for $25 but later got it from a hardware shop for $9. After cleaning each side I would leave it for an hour to dry.
And then the glue has to be measured and mixed at an exact 25:1 ratio, I measured the length of each join, worked out the total glue volume that I would need for that join and then used syringes to get the exact proportions.
Here's some pics of the glues and instructions, the MEK and the valves I'm using.