heres another thing to clonsider, not trying to be negative, just tryying to bring up hurdles I see.
The FCS2 and Fin-S tabs causes the base of the actual fin to sit 1/2-3/4" further back in the box than a Futures or fin.
so say your box channel was 4.5 inches like a Futures box, your fin placement would be off for FCS2 and FIn-S fins. as they would set further back
You would almost have to create a longer channel thinking of the FCS2 bases first then engeneering for that first. HOWEVER... in Doing that you now have a box bigger than a standard futures box, which with tail rocker will be even more challenging on both the design and install.
Keep in mind, FCS wants to get away from the old style 2 tab system entirely. so that base should be the last factor in design, although its probably easiest to incorporate.
"Get out of the library and into the lab"
also, the different tab sizes of the fins as far as depth goes.
Futures is 3/4 and 1/2"
FCS is 5/8
Not sure on FCSII and Fin-s I think Fin-S is 1/2 and FCSII most likely 5/8
So in theory, you would have to run a 2 box setup like futures 3/4 fronts and 5/8ths rear?
Problem in that is front boxes, all the fins will "float" in the box except the futures. and in the rear the futures would float. There may also need to be a insert setup for different style fins. fo fill that space and support the bases.
Acqua, I appreciate the hurdles you are sending my way, it gives me a chance to see if its actually possible before I start putting serious thought into it.
Hi Surfoils. Your section would be tricky (but probably not impossible) to tool. It is undercut and would need a slider in the tool (in both core and cavity) to make it work. More expensive than a simple open/shut tool. These sliders would also need to be compatible with the sliders which are required to form the screw holes - which are by their very nature in all fin boxes and not in the line of draw. Or you could make it in two halves and glue or sonically weld them together. Of course if you are going to 3D print instead of traditional tooling, then all things are possible.
I see them around allot in Hawaii
one of my surflights I got from Jim Richardson has them
Charlie (BB10) has tried them you can ask him
but I think they went out of business
I thought Dave Skedelski from Surfco was experimenting with it
he comes up with all kinds of stuff
"ain't no big ting brudda"
Oneula, good to know other people are thinking the same way.
Making a product that's only compatable with their own fins seems to work for all these companies but it's not exactly what the surfers want, I'd rather have a box that took every type of fin or a fin that fit every box. And if the fin sits a fraction too high or low its still a win for me as long as it holds securely. The flexibility is the main factor.
RDM, That 3-D printing sounds amazing, that might be the way to go and if we're thinking outside the box I wonder if some sort of exotic plastic extrusion might work as well and cap the ends ? Or Aluminium?
This would definitely be a project for Kickstarter ! For a $10 contribution they would get 1 set but for $500 they would get 100 sets to sell and turn into $1000.
Honestly mate; There aren't that many of the bros laying awake at night worrying about a universal fin system. When you get it figured out though, I'm sure you'll make a boat load of $$$$$$$$.
That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
Surffoils. Once you have a CAD model you could 3D print in a structual plastic such as nylon if you wanted a few protoypes to test. But piece cost would probably be too high if you were thinking of 3D printing for production - although that will change in the future as 3D printing technology becomes cheaper and speed increases. A capped extrusion could work but you would need to jig and drill holes for the fin fixing screws.
makes me wonder about the surflight I got. But Jim gave me a couple of blue surfinz fins for the rear since he said the fins were made for the box. hope it holds up.
When I bought my Lokbox install kit they had adapters for FCS fins for their box. Its a little tight but it works.
I kind of like the way the lokbox boxes are glassed in and the way the tab works not as convenient as FCS fusions or probox but nice flange design.
Robin Mair's new gearbox fin box (http://gearbox-surf.com/) looks nice too.