Nice! Surffoils, what's are your initial thoughts on the quality of the 3D printing. Did all fins fit the first try or did you need to clean up the boxes at all? Just curious as to how close the 3D printing tolerances are?
" Its a bit of a disappointment really, I thought it would have been harder to design something capable of taking all the different fins." - I think that speaks more to your design capabilities and thinking through the problem in the simplest manner possible. Your solution is really clean and lacking complexity. Usually the sign of a lot of thought and preparation on the front-end before the design work starts.
Congrats, looks awesome! You should ask the guy who did the CAD drawings if he'd mind open-sourcing the document so anyone can print them. Then anyone here on Sways could use a local 3D Printing service to get some made for themselves.
Great work Surffoils!
Just adding to Lawless's questions..
what cant did you go for?... is it a 6 or 9?... also did the ridge work with fcs fins or did you go for something else?... Just couldnt see the ridge in the photo? Have you tried a fcs2 yet?
would be good to get a lip on the box opening so you can just sand the boxes open post glass.
Lawless , the quality of the printed boxes is really good, the lines and corners are sharp, the angles are clean and consistent, there's a slight textured finish to them but its completely acceptable.
I'm not sure if they were printed and then cleaned up but what I got in the mail was ready to go straight into a board. The CAD guy is reading this thread so he will say if he's happy to offer the file to share. It still needs more work to get it completely functional for all fins so it might be better to wait until that's done and then hand it out. That's such a cool idea too, anyone could email the file to a printer and get a set of universal boxes in a day or two. I think the design is perfect for travelling surfers because they can mix fin companies and they're not locked in to just one brand. Foamhack, the cant is 6 degrees. And a few pics of the FCS II fins in the box, they fit snugly like all the FCS fins and can be adjusted back and forth by about 35 mm. Grasshopper, the CAD guy was keen on getting the thin resin dam walls and some outriggers for a stable install and he's already done the drawings for that in Pic 3 and 4 below.
Assuming this is an "under the glass" install you want to move that resin-dam ridge to be built up around the fin-slot and the screw holes, rather than the perimeter of the box. Otherwise you won't be able to get the glass to lay flat. Same way that FCS/Futures builds up their under-glass boxes. Anyway, great execution and I think you actually have something marketable for the board manufacturers.
OK. I guess the cat will eventually come out of the bag, so I might as well admit I'm doing the CAD modelling for SurfFoils. To help ease the load on him for answering your questions and also my questions, it might be time to show everyone the different versions that have currently been modelled and let those who have extensive experience installing fin boxes to offer any advice on the design in regards to installation, etc. I will be happy to share the files once the design/s are finalised - "open source" makes the world go around after all.
Images are in the following order.
1. Post Glass Installation Wide Flange Version - would require double routing or use of excess resin.
2. Post Glass Installation Narrow Flange Version - single routing of irregular shape
3. Pre Glass Installation Version - similar to Futures installation I guess (but I have no personal experience with this).
Of course 3D printable routing jigs can easily be modelled as well, to suit any of the boxes. I would just need to know the required thickness and offset distance from the edge periphery of the box.
Because everyone's got different ideas about this, I'm happy if they accessed the file now and designed it the way they want to. Some would like it to be after glass , some before.
Have at it guys, if that's OK with you Rohan ?
No problems for me. It's relatively easy to do all three once we have the "internals" sorted out. That way people can choose the one that suits thir preferred installation method. Those of you who have experience with either installation method (pre glass or post glass) and can see things they don't like, please speak up and help us to get this thing close to being right the first time. Thanks.
Wow Surffoils and RDM
This is great! We might be calling you the "Simon Anderson" of finboxes!
Maybe you should put a "donate here" button on your blog website for each person who uses the cad drawings? At least get a few beers out of the idea!