Hi Matt - Don't know if you've been to the surf museum down in San Clemente? They have some old Simmons boards among others. Very similar rail contours, and nearly identical to Liddle style rails in every way. I doubt a blind folded person could tell the difference in a rail grab.
Thanks John,
gotta go, sometime soon.
Can't recall exactly but BS studied marine architecture or the "Hull" long before Greg was a tinkle in Pop's eye!
Bob Simmons an icon and we all owe...
A very long story, indeed.
In the end it was the Chapin garage door company, that gave BS his start.
Look up Gard Chapin.
Yeah, Mickey Dora's step dad...
"Zig zagging" those old redwood balsa glider's.
Me thinks "something was going on there at San O, way back....
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I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
I like "P" for maximizing volume, while keeping a fairly decent rail thickness. I use it on my mid-size floaters and my belly boards. I used it inadvertently on a longboard about 10 yrs ago, now that I think about it. I hadn't quite mastered blending my rail bands and was shooting for a pinched rail on a 9-6 Phil Edwards template I got from Kawika. Ended up with more of a sloped rail design. That board was one of my all-time favorites and really liked to take a high line on the wave.
Really enjoying this thread, although I have just been lurking in the sidelines.
Interesting because none of us will stay 'young'forever.
It makes me think about what Mr Slater and friends might be riding when they are past 70. Can they stay short?
I have to admit that I have a question which is the reason for dipping my feet in.
You guys are experienced in mid length boards so where better place to ask.
Making a 7' 0" funboard/minimal for a beginner, what kind of nose and tail rocker numbers would you recommend? I value all of my customers even if they can't surf (yet) so I want to get it right.
Board in question is 7' 0" x 22" x 3"
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LTM
Really enjoying this thread, although I have just been lurking in the sidelines. Interesting because none of us will stay 'young'forever. It makes me think about what Mr Slater and friends might be riding when they are past 70. Can they stay short?
Past 70? Really? I doubt it. But past 60, yes, there are a lot of surfers past 60 who still ride shortboards. I think a lot of them would do better with a bit more volume, but a lot of guys seem to stick with what has worked for them in the past, and don't question what might work better for them as they age.
There are a lot of surfers older than 60, very few at age 70, so the decade between 60-70 is the decade, for most of us, we will have to give up surfing. I say don't get depressed about it, instead, why not squeeze every last drop of fun and stoke out of it!
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
I like "P" for maximizing volume, while keeping a fairly decent rail thickness. I use it on my mid-size floaters and my belly boards. I used it inadvertently on a longboard about 10 yrs ago, now that I think about it. I hadn't quite mastered blending my rail bands and was shooting for a pinched rail on a 9-6 Phil Edwards template I got from Kawika. Ended up with more of a sloped rail design. That board was one of my all-time favorites and really liked to take a high line on the wave.
The wing squad is a blend of the bottom half of M and the top half of J
I'll jump in
Check the US Blanks 7-4SP
A natural rocker stock blank
take 2" off the ends and it comes out
ABOUT
N 3" T 2"
And it is thick enough to get her done.
Good basic mini longboard blank.
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
here is the 8-4 Golden Standard in action. Was my go-to, but fast being replaced by the Wing Squad, hope to get some shots of the that one too, maybe.
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Eh,
Nice.
Really love your expressions of stoke and concern!
Best.
Oh!
One more thing....
"Wounded Gull"
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I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
yeah, two broken fingers on right hand, I can really tell, wondered if anyone else would notice
Past 70? Really? I doubt it. But past 60, yes, there are a lot of surfers past 60 who still ride shortboards. I think a lot of them would do better with a bit more volume, but a lot of guys seem to stick with what has worked for them in the past, and don't question what might work better for them as they age.
There are a lot of surfers older than 60, very few at age 70, so the decade between 60-70 is the decade, for most of us, we will have to give up surfing. I say don't get depressed about it, instead, why not squeeze every last drop of fun and stoke out of it!
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