Had the WS out in some (small) swell the past 2 days, took it out at the 'bu for a few hours this morning. I continue to be stoked with it, but I'm thinking a bit less width & thickness, undecided about rocker. What I have is working good, possibly a tiny bit more than needed, a little less rocker might make the late drops a little trickier, but get me in earlier. I'll have to compare rockers of the WS and the GS.
I was thinking of going with something like the front half of the Goldern Standard, and the back half of the Wing Squad. But then I just went out and double checked the bottom of the Wing Squad - surprise!
Hey Mattwho, guess what? I didn't remember this, but sure enough the Wing Squad has a single concave (not deep, about 1/8") all the way from nose to fins, and then double concaves in the fin area, with the stringer even with the rails through the fin area. Down, tucked rails all the way, front to back.
And the Golden Standard has pinched very round rails with a bit of belly in the nose, so I'm not sure if should try to mix them, wondering if I should just stay with the Wing Squad rails / bottom for the next slimmed down Wing Squad, or try for a hybrid. How would I even do that? Decisions, decisions.
Hey Mattwho, guess what? I didn't remember this, but sure enough the Wing Squad has a single concave (not deep, about 1/8") all the way from nose to fins, and then double concaves in the fin area, with the stringer even with the rails through the fin area. Down, tucked rails all the way, front to back.
Does this mean
Another conversion to "concavelism"?
BTW it is best not to mix concave with entry surface
as there are some possible "Bogg" on takeoff issues.
IMHO...
Somehow I flat assed missed the Wings.
Maybe it was buried deep down had me love both the WS and Stubbie.
Nice pics! Yes the wings do liven things up, the WS is easier to turn than I thought it would be. That's knocked a few years off my surfing, ha! Took it out at the "secret spot" again this morning, had a great session, but tore two fins out on a wipeout, one of them plug and all! Bummer. But still had a great morning.
Well, second time in a year I think, dunno if that constitutes a habit, but if not, then I don't plan on making it one, haha. One fin came out - gone - but the box remained intact, the other took everything. Which bums me out - $70 Von Sol quad fins, I normally don't splurge like that but several people told me to upgrade from the cheapie composite ones, so I thought I'd give 'em a try. Really liked the way the board was working, not sure how much of that was the fins, but definitely don't have another $70 to burn right now.
I don't think I added glass in the pocket when I put these in (but I know I definitely did on the stubbie, even have pics of it). Went back and looked at the build thread on WS, no pics or details of the fin plugs. But hey, it ripped one fin out without budging the box, and I know I tightened that fin just a few days ago.
Got the wax off and wiped the board down with paint thinner to prep for shop time, I'll see this weekend if I have a spare plug around, otherwise have to order one. Too bad, I was starting to get this board wired! Had a blast this morning. I was having too much fun at the top of 1st point, taking off on a few set waves I knew I couldn't make, and getting just hammered, note to self: I probably shouldn't be doing that.
I have heard that about concave in the nose, but I have also heard of people who put concave in the nose and say it helps get them in early. Wing Squad I had a little, not much in the nose, but a little, with the hard down rails with a tuck all the way to the nose point. The board was working well, a good wave catcher, but I'm always on the lookout for anything that would improve paddling / takeoff. There were a few late takeoffs that I wished I could have gotten in a bit earlier, and thought I should have, but did the concave cause a "bog"?? I don't know, its possible. What's your thought on softening the rails up front, but keeping the hard down rails with tuck middle to back? That's kinda where I'm leaning right now. I'm starting to love this board, but of course, want to improve it!
One thing I have noticed several times on this board, I'll attempt something and think I failed, next thing I know I made it and I'm like whoa, what do I do now, haha! So I'm still getting familiar with the performance possibilities of this thing, and how to handle it, etc. Definitely makes it through and around sections I wouldn't on my longer boards, and seems to accelerate quicker at takeoff - my other boards you kinda have to build up speed, this one just goes. So yeah, I am kinda becoming a concavian! At least open to the possibility it can be used to advantage on the type and size of boards i've been riding. BTW did you notice the French shaper said concave when I asked about high performance longboard :-)
Sorry Bro...
But that is why a quiver is best.
It was good today!
Sneaker NW ha Rincon only 40+ surf forcasters out!
Damn the surf reports to Hell!
Good news, better SW down @OH
Just a little to much for this oldman (stand up)
Regarding the board...
I was kinda thinking a trade off
6-7 for 8-8...
I haven't given up on sweet talking Dustin out of the 8-8
Just that
ah, a 6-7 to these kids is long.
How much do you wiegh?
PM O.K. LMAO!
Here is the story...
I really want to make a board for myself
something with paddle power
AND, easy to get out.
Just hate having to "abandon ship"
In my heart of hearts
I really want to go single concave with quads.
Here are some shots of the 8-8
Double concave quad and tested winner.
Also the vector net aids in winning rail bash contests with snakes
one, two and then they pull out,
They can't affort it!
Your thoughts?
8-8 3.jpg
new and old.jpg
ds hplb bottom.jpg
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
Consider it done! Want me to add center thruster plug for Dustin?
I'm inclinded to agree with LTM.
Boy loves thrusters!
BTW.
those fin boxes look like "probox"
FCS (tab) will work, yeah?
8-8 is set up quad only with FCS boxes.
Ah, for a reason...
Let's work on this...
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
Yes!!!!!!! go thruster....... Or would be interesting to try it quad with some GL side bites in the rears with a nubster trailer.
Yes FCS fins work with probox plugs. Quad is fine on the 8-8. Will try to get to it this weekend, keep u posted.
Had the WS out in some (small) swell the past 2 days, took it out at the 'bu for a few hours this morning. I continue to be stoked with it, but I'm thinking a bit less width & thickness, undecided about rocker. What I have is working good, possibly a tiny bit more than needed, a little less rocker might make the late drops a little trickier, but get me in earlier. I'll have to compare rockers of the WS and the GS.
I was thinking of going with something like the front half of the Goldern Standard, and the back half of the Wing Squad. But then I just went out and double checked the bottom of the Wing Squad - surprise!
Hey Mattwho, guess what? I didn't remember this, but sure enough the Wing Squad has a single concave (not deep, about 1/8") all the way from nose to fins, and then double concaves in the fin area, with the stringer even with the rails through the fin area. Down, tucked rails all the way, front to back.
And the Golden Standard has pinched very round rails with a bit of belly in the nose, so I'm not sure if should try to mix them, wondering if I should just stay with the Wing Squad rails / bottom for the next slimmed down Wing Squad, or try for a hybrid. How would I even do that? Decisions, decisions.
Does this mean
Another conversion to "concavelism"?
BTW it is best not to mix concave with entry surface
as there are some possible "Bogg" on takeoff issues.
IMHO...
Somehow I flat assed missed the Wings.
Maybe it was buried deep down had me love both the WS and Stubbie.
Wings are wonderful things.
I posted up http://www.swaylocks.com/forums/origins-wingsting as Olphart way back.
Hope you don’t mind reading an olphart
reminiscing and still trying to keep current.
Way back in ah,78-79 I started shaping for the 2nd time.
And the "wing was the thing"
photo's (of course).
#1 My ride prior to the 2nd coming
#2 circa 78 dbl wing pin
#3 circa 79 triple wing pin ( dbl barrel concave).
#4 Now, 3rd and last time at shaping...
Dustin is turning 35 tomorrow!
Now I am really feeling old as he is the youngest.
And "Boy"?
You sitting down?
He told me that the wing really freed up the edge
and it was easier to bust the fins loose.
Like you or I give a shit!
Bottom-line wings liven things up.
Wings GOOD...
Thanks for tunin' in!
McCOY top.jpg
I MBLAZE 1.jpg
I MBLAZE 2.jpg
DONE.jpg
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
Nice pics! Yes the wings do liven things up, the WS is easier to turn than I thought it would be. That's knocked a few years off my surfing, ha! Took it out at the "secret spot" again this morning, had a great session, but tore two fins out on a wipeout, one of them plug and all! Bummer. But still had a great morning.
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oct 17, 2015 016a.JPG
Bustin' fins seems to becoming a habit.
I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
Well, second time in a year I think, dunno if that constitutes a habit, but if not, then I don't plan on making it one, haha. One fin came out - gone - but the box remained intact, the other took everything. Which bums me out - $70 Von Sol quad fins, I normally don't splurge like that but several people told me to upgrade from the cheapie composite ones, so I thought I'd give 'em a try. Really liked the way the board was working, not sure how much of that was the fins, but definitely don't have another $70 to burn right now.
I don't think I added glass in the pocket when I put these in (but I know I definitely did on the stubbie, even have pics of it). Went back and looked at the build thread on WS, no pics or details of the fin plugs. But hey, it ripped one fin out without budging the box, and I know I tightened that fin just a few days ago.
Got the wax off and wiped the board down with paint thinner to prep for shop time, I'll see this weekend if I have a spare plug around, otherwise have to order one. Too bad, I was starting to get this board wired! Had a blast this morning. I was having too much fun at the top of 1st point, taking off on a few set waves I knew I couldn't make, and getting just hammered, note to self: I probably shouldn't be doing that.
I have heard that about concave in the nose, but I have also heard of people who put concave in the nose and say it helps get them in early. Wing Squad I had a little, not much in the nose, but a little, with the hard down rails with a tuck all the way to the nose point. The board was working well, a good wave catcher, but I'm always on the lookout for anything that would improve paddling / takeoff. There were a few late takeoffs that I wished I could have gotten in a bit earlier, and thought I should have, but did the concave cause a "bog"?? I don't know, its possible. What's your thought on softening the rails up front, but keeping the hard down rails with tuck middle to back? That's kinda where I'm leaning right now. I'm starting to love this board, but of course, want to improve it!
One thing I have noticed several times on this board, I'll attempt something and think I failed, next thing I know I made it and I'm like whoa, what do I do now, haha! So I'm still getting familiar with the performance possibilities of this thing, and how to handle it, etc. Definitely makes it through and around sections I wouldn't on my longer boards, and seems to accelerate quicker at takeoff - my other boards you kinda have to build up speed, this one just goes. So yeah, I am kinda becoming a concavian! At least open to the possibility it can be used to advantage on the type and size of boards i've been riding. BTW did you notice the French shaper said concave when I asked about high performance longboard :-)
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