Needs rail channels on the deck. Or so I think.
All the best
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught. - Winston Churchill
come on, I've got to sand the thing.
cool stuff yorky! dont do it with the channels, keep it simple! Haha the multi faceted tail is already too much for me:) seriously good shaping though and love the energy/precision you put into these builds , carry on..
I decided to put the side bite channels, and mini conaves in the tail.
Plus I deepened to side pannel concaves. These don't go right out to the botttom edge (at half way) they stop about 1 1/2" from the tuck, but flow out to the edge in the tail, there about 2mm or >1/16" deep.
The concave and vee off the tail is very suttle (unlike the moster vee out the tail in build #2)
EDIT: I re read my post here, I sounded like a retard, sorry about that.
I taped up the top and bottom.
Ready for carbon and color.
A little insight into how I plan to make this build lighter and stronger.
I'm not going to say exactlly whats going on there (due to trols, thumb driver 'shapers', etc)
But, i'm sure if your a surfboard craftsman you'll be able to work it out. now.... or later in the build.
(pls don't post it up if you know what i'm doing, it's nothing new... but......)
Love it champ.....
So good to see all the stages pics. This thread is trouble cause I keep reading it and re-reading it.
Maybe im a thumb drive shaper, but i doubt it, I dont do enough boards and I'm to fond of doing stuff the long and hard way.
But I have been known to use the computer but I do a fair bit of hand shaping in my hobbie efforts.....
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
No, Imbrace the machine, It's a tool at the end of the day.
I didn't mean to offend people, especially backyarders (there leading the way, both in stoke and creativity IMHO)
What I don't like is overnight 'scrubbers' that haven't earn't there stripes. The playboy 'shapers' that, really, don't know shit from clay about surfboard construction, Stickers, hats, tee's... the ego, the BS. With 30 board a week contracts from who they know, Not, what they know.
Sorry for the rant...
Rant away, you have earnt the right to rant with the gold you're sharing.
Where is your surfboard "day job", next time you're on the sunny coast......
Would love to get you to talk to the Surf excellence kids about the surf industry.
I got myself a Blue card 8 years ago and did a gig like that for the kids up your way.
My student made a board, like the lost rocket. It had exotic materials and a few bells and whistles on it...
Hats off to you, love what your doing for the kids.
It's all a time thing, I'd love to, but, I have a young demanding family and I'm a family man.
Thanks for the offer.
...................One of my favourite waves on the east coast is Ann st. Lets hook up there one day, and go left. :)
When I lived in caloundra it was just up the road from Anne street worked with ben sylk from wind and sea, even got my name on club champion for senior mens in 2009. Only competitive claim to fame....
Love it when its on......
Maybe I could go back reread, look at pictures and figure it out; My question is; Are you using a grit barrel or blades? Nice shaping either way. But since you are into EPS and Dow Blue; I was thinking a barrel from Shapers would be appropriate.
That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
yeah the barrel,
made the switch from blades awhile ago now.
The first few boards I shaped with it (they were all pu back then) I was like "whats this shit" It felt like it was floating and not gripping (ripping) in.
I ran with two of the same Hitachi's one with blade and one barrel for finishing for a while.... You know the deal.
But once I got used to it. Love it.
... I never have owned a 'skil' I do have skil envy, what a classic machine ha, and that 'accurate planer' that looks mental.
The first year I were to Japan they had a 'Bosh' plastic. and a Hitashi with all the clark mods. The Bosh was tolal crap (for me) and the mods on the Hitachi (depth control thing) was loose as shit. - I couldn't get my head around it / flopping around everywhere.
Just stick to what you know I guess.
I can't stand shaping without my own gear or bay now, won't do it. I think I got a bit of OCD when I walk into a shaping bay these days haha
Yes hard to go somewhere else and adapt without at least the planer you are used to. Sanding blocks, Surforms etc are easily adapted. But the feel of someone else's sloppy ass planer is hard to overcome, adapt etc as Dave says. I buy and sell quite a few Skils you know. Off course they are all 120 not 240. But a "Step Up ---Step Down" could take care of that. Lowel
Cold night last night
It was the coldest I have ever used epoxy, I mixed fast epoxy at 7pm to lay strips of carbon down and around to top (I was frozen - never again!)
I ended up trimming it at 2 am (it was just to cold).
Going to do a 4 oz, bottom soon.
This build, well, I played with the carbon and it looks weird... I considered putting it aside and starting our next build.
.................Computer won't let me upload any pic's
I had the fan heater going in the shed yesterday and today while I laminated, then turned it off as I left the shed and it turned pretty well. Used the CET epoxy from John Gillis and it went pretty well.
Did a little timelapse with the go pro this morning but the battery went flat just as i was about to start to wrap the rails which was a bummer. its exporting now so i will add it to the "fun in the shed this arvo" thread. see if i can get it straigh on or will have to add it to a vimeo or youtube. for some reason i have had an issue with that in the past where it goes from clear to crap when i load to Youtube?
There is so much I want to teach my 8 year old son, but the youthful wall is so high.
I laminated over some carbon strips.
It's 4 oz plane weave rail to rail, so, nice and light this time (I drained the shit out of it too)
... Lots of decals (the gecko is a hand shaped sign from a while back), old school grom style.
No futures plugs, were doing dual fcs1 plugs this time. To see how much flex it can handle (I plan to snap this one). Futures plugs lock the tail flex up way to much... For me, any way.
The carbon lay up way hard to say the least.
Bottom is one layer of 4 oz.
Top is a 4 oz insert with 2 oz over top.
... With a few twists and turns along the way.
I used water based yellow paint. I Applyed the paint in the carbon tape up lines (The blank wasn't sealed - the paint added a very minor sealing of the blank, for when the epoxy was brushed on for the carbon application).
Lots of patience going with that Carbon. Really nice. Lowel
We'll put it on hold for a while after this build, We'll have a conclusion - thus far on the builds...
...My focus is elsewhere.
may be a few weeks to wrap this up, maybe a few pics under the sun in the water with fins in.
222 posts, nearly 10000 views about 10 posts of interest.
I love talking to myself...... SNAFU...
................. Might build a eps body board now
Surffoils has made the same observations about a few of his threads.
Lots of lurkers about...
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Sorry for this one to end
Plenty of interest Yorky, always tuning in to see how they these builds are going- they look great! Really nice work!.
Just a cheeky question of what kind of rocker numbers did you use on the best performing one (to date) of these builds?
I check this thread every time I see there's anything new. Loving every bit of it, just don't have much to say. I do have to admit something. The first time I saw the sci-phi tail shape, I thought it was godawful ugly. The more I've watched this thread progress, the more visually appealing it is to me. You've definitely made me re-think a few things about board design.
Hey I love to give you $#!t , but also like very much to follow what you are doing. Used to do the same to Huie. There is a little lag in understanding our cultures. Sometimes things are misconstrued. But; I admire both of you greatly and the work that you do. And one of my greatest desires has always been to watch the water in a toilet spin counter clockwise down the drain. Which means; Visit your great land Down Under. Lowel
Always click on this thread when I see you have added more to it.
I'm digging the carbon on Yellow appearance, and the bat tail is growing my my visual pleasure centers too, though such a board is not likely to go under my feet.
I have one rebuilt board I routed rail to rail depressions though 1 layer of cloth, put carbon strips pulled tight rail to rail bridging toe and heel dents and glassed over with no rail wrap. I think someone like you could refine this into an engineered flex and deck stomping resilience with little increased risk of board snapping. Way outside the logic box I know, but experimentation is where the leaps begin
Quote: 222 posts, nearly 10000 views about 10 posts of interest. I love talking to myself...... SNAFU...
"I love talking to myself...... SNAFU..."
Oh JFC. So now Yorky is all butt-hurt due to lack of attention? MAN UP ya wanker! Keep posting. Your shit is awesome. You're one of the few that I actually look forward to checking out when new posts go up.
:) love it
Quote: So now Yorky is all butt-hurt due to lack of attention?
Where does this expression even come from?
The other day I had a wipeout and landed on my fin in the worst possible place. That really made my butt hurt.
I feel at home with all you weird freaks... seriously.
I'm interested. I didn't want to butt in. I like your work.
I love this thread.
No; It's not an ironing board.
All but a surfboard
One thing We all love is photos...
We are leaning more towards a split rear fin thruster set up here compared to your traditional quad set-up (if there such a thing) . Huie has crafted various splits to try here (After all, this was the orignal plan for this thread-My bad !) moving forward.
As of tomorrow I have a Lot more time to surf, It's like a breath of fresh air.
Thanks Huie, much respect master. :)
It is a butt ugly board haha (a one off thats for sure)
I'm not going there with the carbon lay-up again. How's how weird it makes the outline look from the deck lol
oh well... It's nice and light this time around.
york looking great! would love to see you do a version with no wing and a split tail
Love the split-fin thing.
You just took this thing to a
whole nuvvah level.
it's a spin off idea from on of Bill's "thrailkill" post on a thread.
I rode it yesterday in shitty punchy waves. It rode a lot stiffer then I expected (those back fins are quite small).
I didn't surf for long so....
Yesterday was a beautiful sunny 2-3 foot straight offshore day, perfect little running waves.
I have ridden this one with a few different fin set ups and was thinking it was best as a thruster.
I took a bunch of boards down yesterday to try.
Thought i'd warm up on this board with 3" 'thin' single foil rears in it.
It changed the board and went good straight off the bat.
...At speed it gripped, and at slow it slipped.
I ended up not changing boards and rode it for over 3 hours.
Epic stuff buddy, I have plans in the works to make one inspired by this design and the sciphi kinda thing. But I'm thinking I might just go a standard single to double concave, letting the outline do the work. I don't want to stuff it up.
Keeping the rocker similar to the 5'6" sunny round, jusy making it a bit more refined foil through the extremities.
Funny how things go around.
Here's one of the boards I made on this thread being ridden. Great little vid by stab mag.