Somewhere, first check around parents house, maybe one of my sisters signed for them... Then door knocking.
Fuked thing is, someone signed for them!
had 2 surfs yesterday, then went to work and sanded 14 boards 120-150-240. got home at 12:30am last night. Today I look after my 7month old son for 10 hours and back to work late. Tired !!!!!
.................grrrrrrrr, pissed off right now.
And internet is rats arse, work you BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Australia post are looking into where the post man put them (but he's on holidays isn't he). Awaiting for a reply from Australia post........................................ No sign = No return to post office = stoken fucking package! school holidays, builders next door.....
No one had to sign for them, so they just 'chuck em in a corner out of sight' and hope for the best!
so while ever you fail to look under the vest who knows?
meanwhile i completed the original plan less the ones lost ---that is including a rear for them
no mailing i gave them to my son who will drop them off to you when he is in your territory
these have a lot of variables in thicker foils and the f d h f bulbous theory
It is an extreamly rare event for A package to go missing. Australia post is very efficent.
I put in a complaint with Australia post, They got back to me with documented information yeaterday.
'The package was handed To an older gentleman'.
It's got me stumped......... We have a big surfing family I'm hopeing maybe my unkle or brother inlaw has them (it's happened before-I have 40 plus boards there, they go missing all the time).
A lot of architects use a specific ratio number when drafting. It just gives the object a pleasing look.
Just so happens, that the golden ratio is found in nature a lot. (kinda special if you choose to believe)
You keep dividing or multiplying the number, 1.618, into your key numbers you get a sequence of numbers, use them for the (sizes, width, tail width/shape, hip position, concaves, deck roll, rocker, ballance point... decal position etc-when/where 'applicable') it's a nice mind trip. But it's only as good as how all the variables mash together.
Often a good looking board goes shit and vica versa. So it's just a game of bluff... maybe.
I spent my morning multiplying and dividing, drawing (starting with light pencil ending up with thick artliner and re-drawing over tape covered lines).
Until it looked ok and the numbers all matched. Or should I say all the numbers matched and it looked ok.
Remember; I design F1 cars in my spare time, little hobbie of mine, pfft. pfft....
But the golden ratio is like pi. Just as it's impossible to find a perfect circle in the real world, the golden ratio cannot strictly be applied to any real world object. It's always going to be a little off.
And yet approximate values of pi are used to design circular objects.
The golden ratio has been used for street luge to approximate weight distribution.
An approximation of the Golden Ratio worked very well for front vs. rear tire pressures on my street boards.
When I have no idea what the correct ratio for a design should be, I start with the goledn ratio.
The 1.618 value can be used as 61.8% and 38.2% (rounded to one decimal place).
... the middle concaves come from the Golden ratio and so do the side bite channels, but i'm sure you can work that one out.
RG tail, best I could do for now.
also the tail rocker multiplied by GR gave the nose rocker amount from ballance point of -2.25. which is also the, wide point and thickest point (i think I saw that number somewhere)
numerology has been used throughout history . Mohamad Ali used it to determines his fight times .......Leonardo Da Vinci used it to paint The Mona Lisa......classic Greek architectural columns use it......they all share a recuring set of numbers to create proportion and sequence...it's uncanny.
I really enjoyed my time shaping this arvo. (I must say My time with family and contract work is stress-streached beyond anything I've ever experianced, some days I sleep 3 hrs some 6.)
So it's my night off to go down and tune my new shape. A few mood adjusters and good tunes I took a step back and really zoned in. I enjoyed it.
It felt nice taking things a bit, more relaxed
.............I'm happy you guys like our thread (it's our little outlet)....... well....... I'm drunk +...........
The light green xps foam is a lighter density then the blue dow foam.
* 5'6 x 18 3/8" x 2 1/4”
*quad concave
*nose 13 3/8, tail 15 1/8"
*wide point -2.25"
*center outline curve radius curve is 10.5 feet running straight out off the tail.
*wing at 9 3/8" up. 5/16" deep hiping into -5/8" from where the 10.5' outline runs off the tail.
* hip and dimond tail has inverted outlines from a radius curve of 8 feet.
* rail line rocker is 20 radius curve straight off the tail.
*single concave (before all the other fluf is added) has a depth of 1/8 at wide point and 1/8 in front of fins into flat.
*stringer line is a radius curve of 22 feet ((pictured))
*both channels (the dual centre scoliped ones and the deep side bites) the rocker in those are an increasing rocker taken off a parrabolic curve (increasing curve) ((pictured))
*rail thickness is 35mm thick at the wide point (the bevels up)
*the side concaves are taken from a radius curve of 8'
*2 middle concaves are taken from the curve of a 44 gal
Thanks Kayu for meeting me at ya factory today, bloody champion (even before his morning coffee).
Kayu gave me Huie's fins.
The surf was good fun, perfect waves for testing the differences with fin construction. Not powerful, not weak. Nice punchy waist to shoulder high waves, bit of everything.
It's a good thing that I rode this board a bunch of times with off the shelf futures fins. Blessing in disguise.
I'm going to talk more about the performance of the fins a little bit later (and there is a lot of stuff I'm excited about, both now, and in the future)
At first look the profile (shape) had me a bit sceptical, The foil was / is perfect. No doubt about that. The spine wasn’t to close to the leading edge and the foil to the tip was perfect, also the trailing edge was sharp but ‘not cut you chillies tendon in half at the slightest touch’.
The outline had a bit more rake and area then I ever liked, but I’m sold on it now.
First wave, I felt slower and a bit stiffer.
And from then on they just lit up, fast, loose, alive. They felt like they weren’t even there, Like just an extension of the board.
To be honest the red tailed board I ‘played with in this thread is ‘ok’ not great. It’s to easy to ride, It didn’t like to be pushed to hard. I was swapping and changing stock fins looking for that bit extra. It felt like the board and the fins were always fighting each other.
Huie’s fins made the red tail board come together.
Re: Red, wood, glass plus ? fins. They are a lot thicker, more up right and smaller. Really didn’t know what to expect. I only got a few waves on them. (They are demo foil fins that are designed to match a quad set up). I expected them to ride a lot slower off the mark, they didn’t.
First good wave on bottom turns I could feel the water pushing around the thicker foil on the outside fin. They defiantly want to be surfed straight off the bottom and pivot tight off the top. (considering they are designed with quads in mind, this could be a good thing).
*Jury is out with the wood quad fins (because I haven’t had a chance to ride then as such haha)
*Then Glass fins are perfect.
I’m looking forward to trying the shape and foil of the glass fins in the wood tech.
edge of my seat.
all the best
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught. - Winston Churchill
W. T. F. fins sent 19- 4 -16 by parcell post to postcode 2487
article id R445982022367289 extra cover not purchased. (beacause i am a cheep old sod)
now get on your bike and go find them'
parcell sent toU S A-- same day-- arrived days ago
maybe there hidden in a mosque behind a vest
cheers huie
now retired
Going to the post office to see Whats what. (I should have got them sent to my house not my family home, thing is nan is always at the family house).
There Is one address I have not checked (cause there never home).
I will find them.
Somewhere, first check around parents house, maybe one of my sisters signed for them... Then door knocking.
Fuked thing is, someone signed for them!
had 2 surfs yesterday, then went to work and sanded 14 boards 120-150-240. got home at 12:30am last night. Today I look after my 7month old son for 10 hours and back to work late. Tired !!!!!
.................grrrrrrrr, pissed off right now.
And internet is rats arse, work you BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Devo about the fins, i once sent a carbon fibre custom skate deck to a customer in adelaide and it took them a week to track it down. ;(
Should have insisted on the jetski pick up.
PS which factory do you work in?
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
did you ge the fins yet Yorky....?
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
f'n cnts.
yet, not. It's I fuking joke
board goes good.
fins are lost.
Australia post are looking into where the post man put them (but he's on holidays isn't he). Awaiting for a reply from Australia post........................................ No sign = No return to post office = stoken fucking package! school holidays, builders next door.....
No one had to sign for them, so they just 'chuck em in a corner out of sight' and hope for the best!
Hoping.......... But!
awaiting for a reply from Australia post.
not good.
So not cool...
grrrrrr!
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
you two need to get a room''
so while ever you fail to look under the vest who knows?
meanwhile i completed the original plan less the ones lost ---that is including a rear for them
no mailing i gave them to my son who will drop them off to you when he is in your territory
these have a lot of variables in thicker foils and the f d h f bulbous theory
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cheers huie
now retired
Harsh Huie,,, Harsh
I'm just a frother, such a frother I froth over other peoples stuff aswell as mine.
I do "love" your fins and would love to get some off you but im probably not in the cool group.
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
lighten up '' young-en''
i am the easiest going old coot your ever gona meet
cheers huie
now retired
I life time worth of experiance as a craftsman and waterman right there...
Lethal none the less…
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I would rather be someone's shot of whiskey, than everyone's cup of tea.
www.mattysurfboards.com
Huie, are in the fin business now, or just having fun?
They are amazing.
'I'm speachless 'Literallly'
...
I haven't given up on the lost ones.
It is an extreamly rare event for A package to go missing. Australia post is very efficent.
I put in a complaint with Australia post, They got back to me with documented information yeaterday.
'The package was handed To an older gentleman'.
It's got me stumped......... We have a big surfing family I'm hopeing maybe my unkle or brother inlaw has them (it's happened before-I have 40 plus boards there, they go missing all the time).
Huie is solid.
With fins like that, you may be in demand for work.
#2
Had a few surfs on my board. It's good, easy to ride, fast, loose. More detail later.
Huie came up with some good ideas. Mashed them all together for build #2.
I sketched out the board changes for Hu-York Build #2. (A bit more ratio numbers involved).
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I was thinking of the play on words for Huie-York... Hew-York would be more like it.
Looking forward to seeing the next, looks interesting.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE YORKY SOME FINS?
(Actually loving this thread. Maybe a go-fund-me campaign for fins? Haha)
All the best Yorky and huie. All the best.
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught. - Winston Churchill
yes they could all donate to the cancer fund i am setting up.
cheers huie
now retired
look wot turned up''
so they will go to mainland with me to day and go to yorky next week
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cheers huie
now retired
yep there intact
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cheers huie
now retired
Yes.
Back on track.
SOOOOOO that means there are two sets around?
DIBS........
What would i have to do to get one of those sets.....?
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
It's simple math really.
A lot of architects use a specific ratio number when drafting. It just gives the object a pleasing look.
Just so happens, that the golden ratio is found in nature a lot. (kinda special if you choose to believe)
You keep dividing or multiplying the number, 1.618, into your key numbers you get a sequence of numbers, use them for the (sizes, width, tail width/shape, hip position, concaves, deck roll, rocker, ballance point... decal position etc-when/where 'applicable') it's a nice mind trip. But it's only as good as how all the variables mash together.
Often a good looking board goes shit and vica versa. So it's just a game of bluff... maybe.
I spent my morning multiplying and dividing, drawing (starting with light pencil ending up with thick artliner and re-drawing over tape covered lines).
Until it looked ok and the numbers all matched. Or should I say all the numbers matched and it looked ok.
Remember; I design F1 cars in my spare time, little hobbie of mine, pfft. pfft....
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Yorky,
Did you follow the board geometry thread a while ago?
Googling away I see the golden ratio is applied to photography. But then there is - http://www.fastcodesign.com/3044877/the-golden-ratio-designs-biggest-myth
Bob
And yet approximate values of pi are used to design circular objects.
The golden ratio has been used for street luge to approximate weight distribution.
An approximation of the Golden Ratio worked very well for front vs. rear tire pressures on my street boards.
When I have no idea what the correct ratio for a design should be, I start with the goledn ratio.
The 1.618 value can be used as 61.8% and 38.2% (rounded to one decimal place).
The golden ratio has been useful for me.
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Swaylocks Surfboard Design Forum: thoughts & theories ... practical & theoretical
RAIL PROFILE http://bgboard.blogspot.com/2014/03/march-82014-afterr-seeing-recent.html
Not unlike the theory or formula of "The Golden Ass" as applied to tail ends.
That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
Thats the way, using your head.
...
divide 66 (length) by 1.618 and you get a sequence of numbers
66 - 40.75 - 15.5 - 9.625 - 6 - 3.625 - 2.25 - 1.375 - 0.875 - etc
the wing up at 9.625 depth also a GR number.
the rail edge of diamond up 2.25
... the middle concaves come from the Golden ratio and so do the side bite channels, but i'm sure you can work that one out.
RG tail, best I could do for now.
also the tail rocker multiplied by GR gave the nose rocker amount from ballance point of -2.25. which is also the, wide point and thickest point (i think I saw that number somewhere)
McDing's "Golden Ass (theory/formula)" must be the secret sauce of an elite few commercial builders.
_____
Swaylocks Surfboard Design Forum: thoughts & theories ... practical & theoretical
RAIL PROFILE http://bgboard.blogspot.com/2014/03/march-82014-afterr-seeing-recent.html
numerology has been used throughout history . Mohamad Ali used it to determines his fight times .......Leonardo Da Vinci used it to paint The Mona Lisa......classic Greek architectural columns use it......they all share a recuring set of numbers to create proportion and sequence...it's uncanny.
http://www.currumbinwoodworks.com.au/
It's a well known fact of mythological history that followers of muhaimed invented mathematics and flight. Lowel
That which can be assorted without evidence was read in an illegal magazine.
It never ends.
I really enjoyed my time shaping this arvo. (I must say My time with family and contract work is stress-streached beyond anything I've ever experianced, some days I sleep 3 hrs some 6.)
So it's my night off to go down and tune my new shape. A few mood adjusters and good tunes I took a step back and really zoned in. I enjoyed it.
It felt nice taking things a bit, more relaxed
.............I'm happy you guys like our thread (it's our little outlet)....... well....... I'm drunk +...........
lights are a shapers BEST tool ;)
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Looking good. Love the thread. Wish I understood channels.
I follow Cory Graham on Instagram and marvel over his work.
And living yours too. I just don't understand what channels are supposed to do. No hijack intended.
All the best
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught. - Winston Churchill
No center channel this time?
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
details
The light green xps foam is a lighter density then the blue dow foam.
* 5'6 x 18 3/8" x 2 1/4”
*quad concave
*nose 13 3/8, tail 15 1/8"
*wide point -2.25"
*center outline curve radius curve is 10.5 feet running straight out off the tail.
*wing at 9 3/8" up. 5/16" deep hiping into -5/8" from where the 10.5' outline runs off the tail.
* hip and dimond tail has inverted outlines from a radius curve of 8 feet.
* rail line rocker is 20 radius curve straight off the tail.
*single concave (before all the other fluf is added) has a depth of 1/8 at wide point and 1/8 in front of fins into flat.
*stringer line is a radius curve of 22 feet ((pictured))
*both channels (the dual centre scoliped ones and the deep side bites) the rocker in those are an increasing rocker taken off a parrabolic curve (increasing curve) ((pictured))
*rail thickness is 35mm thick at the wide point (the bevels up)
*the side concaves are taken from a radius curve of 8'
*2 middle concaves are taken from the curve of a 44 gal
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Wide point is 2.25" closer to the tail than the nose. -2.25"
Sorry for the dumb question.
@reclaim_surf formerly Skatement
(Adam) Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
I'm happy with this one.
I like ((in first pic)) the look of the concave outline behind the wing, It gives an elusion of a reverse rocker flip.
The rocker in this one is better, then our first build.
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Thanks Kayu for meeting me at ya factory today, bloody champion (even before his morning coffee).
Kayu gave me Huie's fins.
The surf was good fun, perfect waves for testing the differences with fin construction. Not powerful, not weak. Nice punchy waist to shoulder high waves, bit of everything.
It's a good thing that I rode this board a bunch of times with off the shelf futures fins. Blessing in disguise.
I'm going to talk more about the performance of the fins a little bit later (and there is a lot of stuff I'm excited about, both now, and in the future)
But right now I have chores to do.
couple of quick pics.
Thanks Huie, Legend.
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Re: the solid glass fins.
At first look the profile (shape) had me a bit sceptical, The foil was / is perfect. No doubt about that. The spine wasn’t to close to the leading edge and the foil to the tip was perfect, also the trailing edge was sharp but ‘not cut you chillies tendon in half at the slightest touch’.
The outline had a bit more rake and area then I ever liked, but I’m sold on it now.
First wave, I felt slower and a bit stiffer.
And from then on they just lit up, fast, loose, alive. They felt like they weren’t even there, Like just an extension of the board.
To be honest the red tailed board I ‘played with in this thread is ‘ok’ not great. It’s to easy to ride, It didn’t like to be pushed to hard. I was swapping and changing stock fins looking for that bit extra. It felt like the board and the fins were always fighting each other.
Huie’s fins made the red tail board come together.
Re: Red, wood, glass plus ? fins. They are a lot thicker, more up right and smaller. Really didn’t know what to expect. I only got a few waves on them. (They are demo foil fins that are designed to match a quad set up). I expected them to ride a lot slower off the mark, they didn’t.
First good wave on bottom turns I could feel the water pushing around the thicker foil on the outside fin. They defiantly want to be surfed straight off the bottom and pivot tight off the top. (considering they are designed with quads in mind, this could be a good thing).
*Jury is out with the wood quad fins (because I haven’t had a chance to ride then as such haha)
*Then Glass fins are perfect.
I’m looking forward to trying the shape and foil of the glass fins in the wood tech.
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Beautiful fins are't they
Bit of line green, and a 'Huie' decal.
Going to put Gold 1/4" pin line's on this one around the green/carbon.
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To all you fussy pro glassers out there. I know you see puddles of epoxy near the fins plug.
I sware, have a closer look at those pools of epoxy.
I tell you, they are there hehehe.
oh well.............. it's going to be sanded twice ha.
And I glassed it with my American Express credit card.
I call it the 'Thrump' model
2oz + 4oz on bottom
2oz + 4oz (quad axle) + 2oz deck (yep it sounds odd, but it just works that way for me)
fin patches for the 'fcs1' style post instal plugs
... I like pics, so, hope you do to.
I like the 'Huie' decal best ha...... really.
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