Lots of words, lots of views, no answers. Be careful of telling someone to lighten up when you have no idea about them. Also remember it's against the rules to initiate "personal attacks", telling someone to "lighten up and laugh a little" seems to me to be a character assesssment which is unjustifed, uncalled for, and certainly unqualified. Personal attack, hmmm maybe we could argue the definition of that instead of what's behind a label?! I am kidding of course, I want to argue about neither, but if someone wants to tell me I believe in fairies (personal attack perchance?) then I will, until physically unable, argue my corner where I have a reasonable argument to make.
Anyway, let's stop wasting time here, I need to go and lighten up remember. Help me do so by making my day Huck.... answer my question. What did you thank NarrowAsleep for? I want to know. You must know, you thanked him for it said it was "insightful" - so just type one sentence to share the insight, please. (As you are no doubt aware, I have been betting you wouldn't/can't, and I am desperately trying to see if you can prove me wrong. maybe this will help motivate you?)
Even easier as I know you're short of time (except for when giving people you have never met spiritual guidance and life coaching)..... just QUOTE NarrowAsleep's words which made you thank him for the insight. Come on now, it's a fair question
I shared my view, didn't tell anybody else what to do, you have to find your own view. Its a free forum cuz all the work setting it up and keeping it going is done by volunteers, who work for free, so I try to come here with a grateful attitude for what is available to me without cost, and give back what I can. Its not the questions that make the forum valuable, its the answers, even when they're not always what the o.p. was seeking. Just sayin'.
Yes you're an absolute saint doing so much great work for free. Back to the other point though, which is quckier to answer....
"Its not the questions that make the forum valuable, its the answers" - Couldn't agree more. Kindly give me the answer to my question to make it more valuable...
I've been goe a few weeks...and what the fuck happened here? i can't leave you kids alone for a few days and the whole house looks like shit.
Listen use UPOL #1 Clear, or use Max2k glamor clear coat. They are bullet proof and will hold up longer than most of your sorry asses. Been using it for years.
heres a little fish i just finished with Max2K Glamour coat
I struggled to find it in the UK and in my part of the Uk particularly. Local auto stores here have various similar products. But i think i just found some here in UK I can order online. This looks like the stuff, gonna grab a can and give it a whirl https://www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/u-pol-clear-1-high-gloss-clear-coat-45...
Yes any 2 pac auto clear coat will work. The cans are easy to use, but if you have a spray gun and know how to use it, you can get a much better finish that the UPOL can stuff. Also its a lot cheaper to buy the ratio mix product. get a quart with the activator, and you can spray 6 or 7 boards no problem. Its all pretty much the same shit, and it all drys rock hard and sandable / polishable.
Heres the techinque. Fog a layer on..and let it tack up for 6-10 mins. Then I come back with my base coat, I put it on just thin enough so it doesnt run, but thick enough that the product gells in one monolithic smooth layer. Let it kick and get rock hard. Any bugs, zits, orange peel...or god forbid runs that might have happened can be sanded out with 500-600 grit and a bit of water. Polish out with a quality compound. if you want a show room car finish, then take to 500-600 grit one more step to 1200 grit, then polish.
Great info. Wish I had the time (and guts) to try that! Maybe in a few boards time I will read that again! I would LOVE to have that rock hard finish to compound and polish to a mirror shine. I am hoping to achieve that with gloss, one day, when I stop hitting weave!
Just to keep the debate going, I'll say this: there are such things as 1K polyurethanes.
I'll be spraying some today. The trick of it is that the isocyanate is already added as packaged, but it's formulated so that the reaction isn't supposed to start until it's exposed to oxygen. The ones I work with still need to be thinned and are applied with a spray-gun.
The faster-drying formulations will sometimes harden in the can. A common practice is to fill the empty space in the can with nitrogen (which displaces oxygen, thus extending the life-span of the material).
The slower-drying formulations are less prone to this. The stuff I'm working with takes a month to cure at room temp, or in our case - 30 hours in an oven at about 180 degrees F. I swear, at that point the cross-linking is so complete that I can leave something soaking in MEK (not MEKP!) for an hour and the solvent will hardly have touched it.
None of this is super relevant to surfboards, but since the discussion was well off the rails a long time ago, I figured what the heck.
Now THAT is an "insightful" post. Very interesting too. My friend bakes stuff in a similar way for gun and military components and that sort of stuff. They bake army land rovers at a base in the UK and I heard when I worked there that they left a poor guy in the vehicle baking oven when they locked up one night. He was trapped for 2 hours knowing the timer would come on and kick the ovens into life so it was ready for next stage the next morning. Suffice to say, he didn't clock in.
Aaaaanyway. As an update, I decided to go for a Upol type lacquer from a different brand which sprayed very nicely and dried quickly. I was very happy with the finish but once I let it dry for a week I could tell it wasn't going to be strong enough. It has kept the paint on the board and has kept a good finish, but it is way too soft and dents with a fingernail. I have already caught the Waveski a few times which has caused some heavy scratching.
I'm now working on repairing a stand up paddle board to make it watertight and giving it a lick of paint here and there. I've bought some 2k clear this time and will give that a go. It is by the same brand and has a ring pull at the base of the can which punctures the inner bag which mixes the two components that catalyse. Fingers crossed i get a tougher finish this time.