For what it's worth I will say that I find with my higher volume boards it's a hard transition at first from lower volume boards. At first I felt uncomfortable. They seemed bulky and kinda sketchy.
But after riding them consistently in a variety of conditions, I'm enjoying them much more. I can't explain it very well, but they respond differently, and have to be ridden differently. At first different feels wrong, but gradually now it's starting to feel right, and I'm getting a lot more comfortable / confident after fighting the learning curve. Of course waves here pretty tame compared to there.
I'm hoping to get my twinglefin fun gun back in water soon, after adding retrofit rail channels. Was even thinking of adding quad fins so I could make comparison. It needs a bit of size or at least a bit of push. I'm old school too, never got used to thrusters. Singles and quads are pretty much all I ride .
Burn throughs and all. With the size of my fins (7.5") I feel I can experiment with pushing them all the way up in the box. However, where they are now (mid box) they work great.
The board is a 5'8" Fox thruster from late 80's/early 90's; similar to the left one in this pic.
It was all dinged up so I sanded down to cloth and reglassed it with a twingle in mind. Between the two fin boxes and glass is the original fin box, covered now. I haven't measured the tail dimensions but it is fairly wide and thick all around. The fins are el cheapos from amazon that I reshaped as well, single foiled. The ride (to me) feels like a single fin with more hold and drive, that's why I feel I can move them up in the box. Very excited with how it turned out. I am having some problem areas with my glass job on that board that I need to repair. A few sections bubbled up and I had to cut those away. I'm not too sure why it bubbled up though, it's been out of the water and in my house for the entire time I've had the board (7 years) so I doubt it was moisture related. Now, I'm not sure how to match the color with my repairs or to simply say 'screw it' and glass it clear, exposing the flaws.
Monk - I've got the set up in about 5 personal boards.
three boards run the same template and I've found that the bigger the board the farther forward my find are. My 5'10 was at 12.5 in - my 6'4 are at 13 and my 6'10 are up around 14.5. These are leAding edge numbers.
They also all have identical fins.
If put you find at the top of your box and see the extreme. Adjust back if needed.
I've found that there is always tons of hold and that adjusting towards and back is dialing on loose you want your tuns to feel. Flow like a single of skate like twin fin. The hold remains... At least in all my boards.
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"We ain't on our way to Wembley,we ain't gonna win the league. No matter how much they let us down - Westham's still our team"...
Here are a couple of photos of the twingle fins I've been making for my Phoenix board. Thanks Bill for your advice throughout the process. I just need to drill the holes and instal the hardware and they'll be ready for action.
Single-foiled marine ply on strips of fibreglass panel, reinforced with five layers of 4oz glass on each side plus a layer of batik print cotton left over from an inlay I did last year - no wait, it was the year before that. Still getting used to it being 2017.
When drilling the fibreglass, do I need any special bits, or should I just use a standard bit and take it slow?
don't screw around with it
leave it be and give it to me
being 20 lbs heavier than you
I thought it felt pretty good
paddled pretty well too
thought it's feel "chunky" but it didn't cause it "scooted"
plus it didn't bog down
you know I don't compliment your stuff that much
but that one is a keeper in my opinion one of the best of all th emany dozens you've hacked in the dirt under your house
I'd ride that in much bigger stuff for sure maybe kauai next week
who'd thought two singles would feel like that and not track or bog
bill's a damn genius
but then again i was born and raised some 50 years ago on singles and BK/TerryF/Hakman style surfing
"ain't no big ting brudda"
For what it's worth I will say that I find with my higher volume boards it's a hard transition at first from lower volume boards. At first I felt uncomfortable. They seemed bulky and kinda sketchy.
But after riding them consistently in a variety of conditions, I'm enjoying them much more. I can't explain it very well, but they respond differently, and have to be ridden differently. At first different feels wrong, but gradually now it's starting to feel right, and I'm getting a lot more comfortable / confident after fighting the learning curve. Of course waves here pretty tame compared to there.
I'm hoping to get my twinglefin fun gun back in water soon, after adding retrofit rail channels. Was even thinking of adding quad fins so I could make comparison. It needs a bit of size or at least a bit of push. I'm old school too, never got used to thrusters. Singles and quads are pretty much all I ride .
Burn throughs and all. With the size of my fins (7.5") I feel I can experiment with pushing them all the way up in the box. However, where they are now (mid box) they work great.
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Send me your dinged, damaged, and yellowed.
Aloha Monkstar,
What are the dim's, on the subject surfboard? Quite a bit of surface area, in the tail. Are your fins single foiled, or double foiled?
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
The board is a 5'8" Fox thruster from late 80's/early 90's; similar to the left one in this pic.
It was all dinged up so I sanded down to cloth and reglassed it with a twingle in mind. Between the two fin boxes and glass is the original fin box, covered now. I haven't measured the tail dimensions but it is fairly wide and thick all around. The fins are el cheapos from amazon that I reshaped as well, single foiled. The ride (to me) feels like a single fin with more hold and drive, that's why I feel I can move them up in the box. Very excited with how it turned out. I am having some problem areas with my glass job on that board that I need to repair. A few sections bubbled up and I had to cut those away. I'm not too sure why it bubbled up though, it's been out of the water and in my house for the entire time I've had the board (7 years) so I doubt it was moisture related. Now, I'm not sure how to match the color with my repairs or to simply say 'screw it' and glass it clear, exposing the flaws.
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Send me your dinged, damaged, and yellowed.
Monk - I've got the set up in about 5 personal boards.
three boards run the same template and I've found that the bigger the board the farther forward my find are. My 5'10 was at 12.5 in - my 6'4 are at 13 and my 6'10 are up around 14.5. These are leAding edge numbers.
They also all have identical fins.
If put you find at the top of your box and see the extreme. Adjust back if needed.
I've found that there is always tons of hold and that adjusting towards and back is dialing on loose you want your tuns to feel. Flow like a single of skate like twin fin. The hold remains... At least in all my boards.
"We ain't on our way to Wembley,we ain't gonna win the league. No matter how much they let us down - Westham's still our team"...
Awesome, that's good to hear. Where's the pics?
Send me your dinged, damaged, and yellowed.
Here are a couple of photos of the twingle fins I've been making for my Phoenix board. Thanks Bill for your advice throughout the process. I just need to drill the holes and instal the hardware and they'll be ready for action.
Single-foiled marine ply on strips of fibreglass panel, reinforced with five layers of 4oz glass on each side plus a layer of batik print cotton left over from an inlay I did last year - no wait, it was the year before that. Still getting used to it being 2017.
When drilling the fibreglass, do I need any special bits, or should I just use a standard bit and take it slow?
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Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Standard drill bit is fine.
I normally clamp the fin screw tab when I drill to prevent the possibility of splitting the tab as you drill.
RDM has provided sound advice. I do the same thing now, after having split a screw tab, years ago. Learn from the mistakes of others.
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
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