Tony, that's a really good question.....if the fins increase speed then your setting up to noseride has gotta be impacted on how you approach noseriding..........then I think if maybe you have a deep closed teardrop cooncave noserider that are notoriously slow enabling you to clock time up front.........maybe the setup will change that scenario to afford a bit of speed but still with all that lift up front.........hmmmmmmmmmmm.?!
I have a 9'6" Parole that has a great deal of concave in the nose and bunch of rocker in the tail that rides pretty well at the points here in V-County. Beach breaks are hit and miss, on bigger days I get pushed up alot and have a hard time dropping in when it get more than a foot or two over head. That is the board I was considering trying it on.
I have another diamond tail 6'3" x 21 x 3 that I was going to try it out on, but that one I have not even hot coated yet. Have either of you done they dual set up with a smaller bitter plug or box in the middle for use with a twin or quad? If I have my way this board would be a 7 fin monster. But that maybe me getting a little over ambitious.
What is the spacing between the boxes? Butt them up or space them alittle bit?
Hey Bill, I think you're right............oh Fock it.
Maybe the box fins fetch more profit than the little tri's.......although nowdays everything seems over the top in this economy. I'm gonna make some of my own out of compressed cockroaches.
Howzit Bill, This might not have been touched on for the dual fin set up. I use a 5.5' or 6' center fin with side biters on my longboards. What are your thoughts on using 2 of these shorter center fins and the sidebiters also . The reason I ask is it seems that the fins in the pics are taller and in the 7' to 8' or 9' size in the dual set ups.Your feedback is always respected and just another question from outside the box.Aloha,Kokua
The first single foiled fins I did for the twin set-up, were in the 6 1/2 inch range. They worked fine, but I found that my personal preference is a pair of
7 5/8th inch ''Brewer'' fins. I think the set-up you describe, above, would work just fine. I set the fins on two inch centers. One inch on either side of the
centerline of the board. Fin size selection is a subjective thing, though too small or too large for a given board, will be readily apparent. In general,
any size fin that works as a single in the chosen position, will work better paired.
Now that some time has passed, since the installation of the twin fins, have you managed to wring the board out in some larger waves? I don't recall if you had some single foiled fins available to you or not.
I haven't ridden it in anything over 3-4' point-type surf with head high faces....my consensus was that single foiled fins were eratic and responded unpredicatbly (both ways).
I liked symmetricaly foiled better.
The comparison was made with the same Brewer template from Fibre Glas Fin Co. (I have all four of the fins if anyone wants to give them a whirl, or the board(s) for that matter).
It rides like a souped up single fin...tight radius turns off the top and bottom maintained momentum.
This is the same on the big longboard I tried it on.
I have a template for the local beachies that I want to build around it.
Not completely finished yet - a bit of clean up sanding and gloss coating still to be done.
Hopefully it will be strong enough.
RDM,
Even in the unfinished state, it is an impressive piece of workmanship. I like the treatment of the transition area into the base. It looks clean and business like. Looking forward to hearing more.
Tony, that's a really good question.....if the fins increase speed then your setting up to noseride has gotta be impacted on how you approach noseriding..........then I think if maybe you have a deep closed teardrop cooncave noserider that are notoriously slow enabling you to clock time up front.........maybe the setup will change that scenario to afford a bit of speed but still with all that lift up front.........hmmmmmmmmmmm.?!
I have a 9'6" Parole that has a great deal of concave in the nose and bunch of rocker in the tail that rides pretty well at the points here in V-County. Beach breaks are hit and miss, on bigger days I get pushed up alot and have a hard time dropping in when it get more than a foot or two over head. That is the board I was considering trying it on.
I have another diamond tail 6'3" x 21 x 3 that I was going to try it out on, but that one I have not even hot coated yet. Have either of you done they dual set up with a smaller bitter plug or box in the middle for use with a twin or quad? If I have my way this board would be a 7 fin monster. But that maybe me getting a little over ambitious.
What is the spacing between the boxes? Butt them up or space them alittle bit?
Thanks for the input
Hey Bill, I think you're right............oh Fock it.
Maybe the box fins fetch more profit than the little tri's.......although nowdays everything seems over the top in this economy. I'm gonna make some of my own out of compressed cockroaches.
Howzit Bill, This might not have been touched on for the dual fin set up. I use a 5.5' or 6' center fin with side biters on my longboards. What are your thoughts on using 2 of these shorter center fins and the sidebiters also . The reason I ask is it seems that the fins in the pics are taller and in the 7' to 8' or 9' size in the dual set ups.Your feedback is always respected and just another question from outside the box.Aloha,Kokua
Aloha, Kokua
Mike,
The first single foiled fins I did for the twin set-up, were in the 6 1/2 inch range. They worked fine, but I found that my personal preference is a pair of
7 5/8th inch ''Brewer'' fins. I think the set-up you describe, above, would work just fine. I set the fins on two inch centers. One inch on either side of the
centerline of the board. Fin size selection is a subjective thing, though too small or too large for a given board, will be readily apparent. In general,
any size fin that works as a single in the chosen position, will work better paired.
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
Afoaf,
Bring the board, and the intended fin/fins. 10 1/2 inch, or 8 1/2 inch boxes? Let me know.
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
Afoaf,
Now that some time has passed, since the installation of the twin fins, have you managed to wring the board out in some larger waves? I don't recall if you had some single foiled fins available to you or not.
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
I haven't ridden it in anything over 3-4' point-type surf with head high faces....my consensus was that single foiled fins were eratic and responded unpredicatbly (both ways).
I liked symmetricaly foiled better.
The comparison was made with the same Brewer template from Fibre Glas Fin Co. (I have all four of the fins if anyone wants to give them a whirl, or the board(s) for that matter).
It rides like a souped up single fin...tight radius turns off the top and bottom maintained momentum.
This is the same on the big longboard I tried it on.
I have a template for the local beachies that I want to build around it.
Thanks again for your encouragement and insight.
Thrailkill 2 in 1.
Not completely finished yet - a bit of clean up sanding and gloss coating still to be done.
Hopefully it will be strong enough.
Flat outsides and foiled insides as per Bill's instructions.
RDM,
Even in the unfinished state, it is an impressive piece of workmanship. I like the treatment of the transition area into the base. It looks clean and business like. Looking forward to hearing more.
Bill Thrailkill
SHAPER SINCE 1958
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