neira wrote: WHAT???? So Surftech wood "tech" is just: EPS + glass + wood veneer + lacquer (?)
So Surftech wood "tech" is just:
EPS + glass + wood veneer + lacquer (?)
EPS + glass + wood veneer + 1mm polyester hotcoat for that nice deep polish i guess...
And no, I'm not too impressed by the construction either.
That is icredibly odd. having this type of build up is completely wrong. what were they thinking. can you tell me how thick the veneer is and if it wraps the rails fully?
from the pic, it did seem oddly thin (skin). you would do well to vac on the veneer then sand the poly off and lam it with cloth. trouble is the bottom really needs to be done too. but at least it will have no hard spots/flex discontinuities any more on the deck.
There are some structural properties to the wood, the boards are pretty and they are light but IMO the TufLite boards are more durable.
On that break Haavard - finding a close match to the veneer will be your biggest problem. Some of the veneer specialists over here have chip samples of their various woods.
The guy from Leveneer was at the Cerritos College Timberflex demo. They probably have something that would match pretty close.
Glad to find this old thread.
I too was surprised to find no fiberglass on the exterior of a wood surftech longboard I am repairing. Also surprised to find the finish is poly gloss-coat resin despite the "repair with epoxy" lam.
The veneer composite does seem strong against pressure dents, but very brittle and fragile in regards to impact dings.
I just inherited this board, I am thinking of sanding & glassing a layer of 4 oz over everything.
The existing board probably makes for a good core. Since water-tight won't be an issue you can consider other factors like resistance to abrasion or punctures to your equation. Maybe this is where nylon comes in.
I cut off the tail block then cut a slot & epoxied the wood leash loop in place. It was left over from a previous project, & I wanted my leash further back. Visually it matched pretty good.
I got a layer of 4 oz on the bottom, free lap.
No cloth over the veneer. Sprayed Poly finish. What I can't remember is what is between the Veneer and foam for adhesion of the Veneer to foam. Been a long time since I have done repairs on one of those boards. And yes 4oz over the whole thing is a good way to go. I used to use 4oz on them to repair dings, shatters etc. hotcoat and sand. Then I would spray the repair with clear Poly. The Painters Choice stuff from Home Depot. Most of the time if it was dust free and clean I wouldn't even need to wet-n-dry or rub out. Some of the early boards were not cut that cleanly at the rail. The Veneer would be uneven. They got better after the first few though. I had an early Velzy that Dale had actually sighed. Had some minor imperfections along the rail where the Veneer seam was.. One of the owners of Surftech was suprised that I even noticed it. Lowel
The veneer seam at the rail isn't flawless, but pretty darn good. Cosmetically & shape wise the board is very clean.
Several shatters in the finish, like a cell phone screen. I dinged it while working on it. That was the giveaway, it shattered like a porcelain teacup. Probably has gotten more brittle with age. I dont know if it's gonna continue to shatter under my new layer of glass.
I think there is fiberglass & a thin composite under the veneer, which looks to be about 1/16" thick. Prob about 3/32" total. Definitely has that poly resin smell when you sand it.
It's a 9' 3" x 22" Yater spoon, not bad looking, but I cant see buying a surfboard with no fiberglass in the finish.
Where were these made? The logo sez Santa Barbara, I'm guessing Taiwan.
I believe you have a "Sow's ear" there.
all the best
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I suppose you may be right. Certainly from a Swaylocks viewpoint, anyway - there is apparently a whole cadre of possibly less erudite board buyers out there who think highly of these things.
I accepted the board in a trade, not with the intent of creating a silk purse, but with the goal of using this as a potential daily driver. The size was right, the shape was right, and, other than the wood veneer / Surftech aspect, it was just what I was looking for. It came with rave reviews, and like I say, I accepted the offer that was presented to me. I did not know it was never glassed.
Hopefully, with a new glass job, it'll be battle ready, and perform for me as needed. With Corona Lockdowns and other changes in my life, I am gravitating to riding longboards pretty exclusively. I might keep an 8 footer or two, but I have a feeling 9' and up is gonna be my new norm. I like the shape, like the rails, like the fact its a single fin without sidebites, I even like the fin it came with.
The "spoon" aspect is interesting. I personally don't subscribe to the whole "swing weight" spiel, but to me it looks like a standard foil with a bump of foam under the chest, which works just fine for me.
I am not a Surftech fan, have never owned one before, I'm pretty sure I would never buy one new - but I'm not against taking this one in trade and making the best of it.