The concave went all the way out to where the rail bands ended (which only went out on the deck about 2 1/4") and the depth increased as it went to the stringer. It was pretty deep in the center about an inch. There was not a flat spot in the center. It was a gradual, continuous curve/concave. Along the stringer the concave got more shallow as it went back to the tail. The max depth in the tail was about 5/8" (maybe a little more). The rails were very boxy. Now that I understand concept of the scooped deck, that board looked pretty fun. I would have liked to have taken it out of the rack but this was a big surf super store (rhymes with shawn don), and they have them locked up with a cable. From time to time I go in there to check out the board collection they have on the wall and the big label names I don't see very often. Good luck with your own version.
>>> everyone has the same ideas. If someone good uses something, that means it > works. You know what? I saw Kelly Slater just jump off a bridge. Hes > pretty good, I might want to try that... ES; You make surfboards right, then you best ought to know that it is all very interpetational and yes a good surfer (make that excellent) can surf anything but expermentation is the key to progression----many of the designs of the past can be revisited and refined to produce highly functional surfboards, its just like a coach,a general, or a highly successful businessman ---you must have a working knowledge of the past as well as a eye to the future! You know the designs of today have all been done before--heck I made triple concaves on 2" thick boards w/ rockered out tails (WP-19") right after my 1980 Hawaian winter session but there were no takers then except me & a few of my friends so does that mean it didn't work ? NO, it just was the right time for it ---P.S. don't tell anyone I still use some of those templetes now and the under 20 crowd thinks they are unreal---- don't turn your back on a design that puzzles you but learn from it, besides try a 1/2 concave thru your deak fading out w/ a solid glass (5-layers) swallow tail and tell me it has no function cause the drive and flex you get in turns will blow your mind. And lastly listen to SK and cheeck out what he has going w/ some strong credentials to back it up--
the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about it, have fun, enjoy life.
>>> the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around > is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck > concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the > products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people > complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards > suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about > it, have fun, enjoy life. With all due respect, what isn`t old, or hasn`t already been done before in one way or another?? A significant portion of present design lies in discovering the future through the rediscovery of the past... flat bottoms, fins, vees, tucked edges, polyurethane foam, fiberglass and resin, most all of us here have already been there and done that, too... so what? Since they`re decades old, are you willing to give them up? Whatever gave you the idea that if something isn`t around anymore, that proves it didn`t work? If only life were that simple! Please share with us why you believe deck concaves don`t work.
>>> the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around > is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck > concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the > products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people > complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards > suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about > it, have fun, enjoy life. Well you've got your opinion and I have mine but as my Grandma once said "stick your head in the sand and your ass will watch the world pass you by" I think I'll just go shape myself a retro egg W? a concave deck tomorrow and on the next swell I'll get some shots of it not working --I'll send ya some!
This is from an article in the surfline.com archives, "Ehukai Beach Park on Monday, December 10. With no swell and plenty of photogs, the action concentrated on Ehukai's inshore sandbar. Todd Morcom stands out from the pack, test-driving a brand new Joel Tudor concave decked single-fin. ("The thing turns sooo sick.")..."
>>> This is from an article in the surfline.com archives,>>> "Ehukai Beach Park on Monday, December 10. With no swell and plenty > of photogs, the action concentrated on Ehukai's inshore sandbar. Todd > Morcom stands out from the pack, test-driving a brand new Joel Tudor > concave decked single-fin. ("The thing turns sooo > sick.")..." there you go ES saves me the trouble since I hate having to have photos shot anyway they worked in the 70s,80s and now in the year 2002
I remember my surf buddy Steve Wurster had one in "71. We were on the OCC surf team. He fricken RIPPED on that thing. I made a few and really liked 'em. They were short and a little tough to paddle. Came off the bottom really well. It's like you were turning from inside the board. aloha
The concave went all the way out to where the rail bands ended (which only went out on the deck about 2 1/4") and the depth increased as it went to the stringer. It was pretty deep in the center about an inch. There was not a flat spot in the center. It was a gradual, continuous curve/concave. Along the stringer the concave got more shallow as it went back to the tail. The max depth in the tail was about 5/8" (maybe a little more). The rails were very boxy. Now that I understand concept of the scooped deck, that board looked pretty fun. I would have liked to have taken it out of the rack but this was a big surf super store (rhymes with shawn don), and they have them locked up with a cable. From time to time I go in there to check out the board collection they have on the wall and the big label names I don't see very often. Good luck with your own version.
>>> everyone has the same ideas. If someone good uses something, that means it > works. You know what? I saw Kelly Slater just jump off a bridge. Hes > pretty good, I might want to try that... ES; You make surfboards right, then you best ought to know that it is all very interpetational and yes a good surfer (make that excellent) can surf anything but expermentation is the key to progression----many of the designs of the past can be revisited and refined to produce highly functional surfboards, its just like a coach,a general, or a highly successful businessman ---you must have a working knowledge of the past as well as a eye to the future! You know the designs of today have all been done before--heck I made triple concaves on 2" thick boards w/ rockered out tails (WP-19") right after my 1980 Hawaian winter session but there were no takers then except me & a few of my friends so does that mean it didn't work ? NO, it just was the right time for it ---P.S. don't tell anyone I still use some of those templetes now and the under 20 crowd thinks they are unreal---- don't turn your back on a design that puzzles you but learn from it, besides try a 1/2 concave thru your deak fading out w/ a solid glass (5-layers) swallow tail and tell me it has no function cause the drive and flex you get in turns will blow your mind. And lastly listen to SK and cheeck out what he has going w/ some strong credentials to back it up--
Hey, that`s a catchy tune you`re playing, cdb...
the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about it, have fun, enjoy life.
>>> the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around > is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck > concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the > products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people > complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards > suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about > it, have fun, enjoy life. With all due respect, what isn`t old, or hasn`t already been done before in one way or another?? A significant portion of present design lies in discovering the future through the rediscovery of the past... flat bottoms, fins, vees, tucked edges, polyurethane foam, fiberglass and resin, most all of us here have already been there and done that, too... so what? Since they`re decades old, are you willing to give them up? Whatever gave you the idea that if something isn`t around anymore, that proves it didn`t work? If only life were that simple! Please share with us why you believe deck concaves don`t work.
>>> the deck concave is old, been their done that. The reason its not around > is because it didn't work. I'm not against trying things but a deck > concave?? come on guys think! Kinda sad how people complain about the > products we have today. 20 years ago wetsuits were shit and people > complain about the new suits. People complain about how the surfboards > suck in this era. If you don't like it, don't surf. Stop complaining about > it, have fun, enjoy life. Well you've got your opinion and I have mine but as my Grandma once said "stick your head in the sand and your ass will watch the world pass you by" I think I'll just go shape myself a retro egg W? a concave deck tomorrow and on the next swell I'll get some shots of it not working --I'll send ya some!
This is from an article in the surfline.com archives, "Ehukai Beach Park on Monday, December 10. With no swell and plenty of photogs, the action concentrated on Ehukai's inshore sandbar. Todd Morcom stands out from the pack, test-driving a brand new Joel Tudor concave decked single-fin. ("The thing turns sooo sick.")..."
>>> This is from an article in the surfline.com archives,>>> "Ehukai Beach Park on Monday, December 10. With no swell and plenty > of photogs, the action concentrated on Ehukai's inshore sandbar. Todd > Morcom stands out from the pack, test-driving a brand new Joel Tudor > concave decked single-fin. ("The thing turns sooo > sick.")..." there you go ES saves me the trouble since I hate having to have photos shot anyway they worked in the 70s,80s and now in the year 2002
I guess I should dig out the one I have and give it another chance.
I remember my surf buddy Steve Wurster had one in "71. We were on the OCC surf team. He fricken RIPPED on that thing. I made a few and really liked 'em. They were short and a little tough to paddle. Came off the bottom really well. It's like you were turning from inside the board. aloha
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