Not to be the cynic, but aren't some of these "gloss coats" I'm seeing on some people's boards - simply, rubbed out sand coats? GLOSSY don't make it GLOSSED!
Yup! I do them by request.Herb.
Um, I don't get it. Are saying there are bad polish jobs out there? To me a rub-out is a polish. Most shortboards are sanded hot coats taken down to 400 grit. Is that what you mean?
>>> Um, I don't get it. Are saying there are bad polish jobs out there? To me > a rub-out is a polish. Most shortboards are sanded hot coats taken down to > 400 grit. Is that what you mean? No...it means that some people like the "shiney look",but think by adding a gloss coat it will make it weigh a ton (you and I both know that's a joke!)so they ask if I COULD MAKE IT GLOSSY!So I take it down another grit and polish it for them.....for a price of course!Herb.
You ever get anyone asking you for a glossed board,and to fine sand it ,but not to polish it?Herb.P.S. Sorry for answering your QUESTION,after I re-re-read your thread I realized it was for tom v. to answer.
>>> You ever get anyone asking you for a glossed board,and to fine sand it > ,but not to polish it?Herb.P.S. Sorry for answering your QUESTION,after I > re-re-read your thread I realized it was for tom v. to answer. Oh yeah, all the time. I call those "wet-sanded glosses" I do it to my own boards if I'm too lazy to polish them.
Howzit! Sorry for the delay getting back to you folks -( sorry for the confusion, as well). I really appreciated the feedback. Herb sort of answered part of what I was trying to get at in one of his responses (thanks, Herb!). Recently, I came across a few surfboards at a local beach which had been sold to some unsuspecting kids (out of a shop) as having been "glossed". That is to say, the surfboards were misrepresented to these kids as having been given an additional (distinct and separate) gloss layer of resin on top of the sand coat. Yeah, these boards were "shiny" and "glossy", but they were - clearly -just rubbed out or polished sand coats. (and that job, when done correctly, is definitely worthy of additional cost. It's extra work, after all). What I encountered, though, was kind of half-baked...as I found several areas where cloth had breached through this alleged gloss "layer". I have no way of knowing if this polishing job was an "after the fact" addition - that is, done by the manufacturer. (I kind of suspect it was NOT!). These kids had been deliberately misled. While I thought that this might have been an isolated incident, I came across two similar situations (at different beaches, on different "brand" boards, and having been purchased from completely different merchants!). I don't want to "dis" this area (over on the east coast)...there are a lot of really nice (and helpful) people over here. But it seems that wherever there is an apparent lack of resuorces (surfboard manufacturers, shops, and available surfboards) - the level of quality products (sometimes) and even honesty (sometimes) suffers. Not enuogh knowledgeable people are keeping a watchful eye. My initial comment was meant to be provocative, and was directed at those who might try to pull the wool over some naive kids' eyes. A surfboard is far from finished when it leaves a shaper's bay...I can fully appreciate the hard work that goes into a good glass/sand/polish job. Each is a detailed art. My comment was aimed at the "profiteers" who perpetrated this deception upon those trusting kids ... in the event that those parties responsible might come across my "question" on this site. Thank you all for listening. a hui hou! Tom.
Rubbed out or polished sand coats? I don't know about this. I have never heard of anyone taking a buffing pad to a hot-coated surfboard. This sounds like such a pain in the ass I kinda doubt it is the case. Perhapes you saw a really, really bad rub-out where the guy rubbed through the gloss into the cloth. I see this quite often since there are few good rub-out guys left in the industry.
>>> I have to take wetsander's side on this one! ......but on the other hand many small glass shops are doing the "polishing the hotcoat thing" ,eg. Aloha glassing,and YES, they look good.To most people ....they can't tell the diff.Herb.
Yeah, Herb, I'm pretty sure this was one of those "polishing the hotcoat" jobs(and you're right...it looked pretty good). It was just too "lean" to be the real deal. (nose and tail suspect). Why someone would go through this effort without just adding the gloss coat is puzzling (and I fully agree that it would add minimal weight). I hear time and "ca-ching" in the background. thanks, T.