Thats a nice looking fish reverb. What are the dimensions on that?
...the max dimensions are 5´5´´x 20 1/2 (4 up) x 2 5/8 tapered out to a 3/16´´ in the tips
made to loose and fly
notice that a fish more than 5 11 is not really a fish and will not perform in the same manner
losing the "fishness" thang
first off, my rails always have room for improvement. That being said: I once knew a great shaper who would skoff at the idea of rails by large " bands".
He would make seemingly dozens of small,precise cuts more like strips than bands. " It will take you a long time to be able to do this" was all that was said.
Screwfoot, these pict are way small (I dont know what is the limit now)
but this is what that shaper talked about
in this stage is when I left the electric planer and grab the sandpapers and/or sandscreens
so those are the electric planer "mini bands"
--to the other guy,
man, you have the opportunity to share some shaping time with MD!
very cool from his part
go there and learn the proper way and take pict!
I believe I understand the deck taper enough to serve my purpose. The main issue is the relationship between top and bottom rail bands. If you have some v, or or even the tucked under edge, I am not understanding how to keep the seemingly stringer contoured deck rail band flowing with the changing contoured bottom rail band along with a consistent .5" apex or whatever the target size is.
Reverb, I am ecstatic at this oppurtunity. I don't know if it is just the pic but it looks like the tips of the tail are squared off. Am I seeing that right?
Many a beginer runs out of foam before the board is done, I ALWAYS, put my bottom bands on first.
The bottom is where it all starts and I tune it to the point of being ready to finish it when the deck is finished, otherwise without the bottom in place, it become hard to determine how much foam should be left to become the bottom rail.
The really important part of the top bands is the bottom edge, little happens to it if it is how you want it. The top edge of the deck band gets moved further into the flats and loses much of the original look. Much of the shaping the rail is on the top, at this time you can leave it full or, have a blade, it's up to you.
Sensei, good of you to stop by! I have rail band kata down pretty good now, just like you teach! Bottom bands first, with planer of course. Big primary deck band setting rail volume nose to tail. Bisect, bisect, bisect to 6-8 total bands. (you probably do 32 by now). I'm gonna show dis guy how dey duit on Magnolia Screet.
...yes, you re right
and that is the way I go too
but not in the fishes...might be for the protocol that I use to use
I should be clarified that
--the tips were squared to "safety" in the shaping, then curved
Jimthegenius - For whatever reason your comment really turned the light bulb on during my drive to see MikeDaniel. I had read very similiar posts but yours did it, Thank you for that.
So I got to visit with MikeDaniel today and it was great. It really opened my eyes to the "simplicity" of rail bands. Although I had stagefright it went very well. A huge Thank you to him and all of Swaylocks. It went so well I am going to skip doing the bottom bands with the surform and go for broke with the planer. The only thing that went wrong was we ran out of time and never got to discuss your suggestions for the template. I hope we can do this again as I truly appreciate the knowledge that you shared.
Sorry reverb I got out of work late and did not get the camera!
Yeah, time flies when you're having fun. Sorry we didn't get to the templating but I wanted to get your rail band and planer use questions out of the way first. And I wanted you to get some practice in on the planer, blocks, screen, and surform (yes, Jim, I did tell him to throw it away after a while).with me there to coach. Cut on those practice blanks before you go for those bottom rail bands. The block might be a safer choice but you were doing well with the planer; go for it if you're feeling brave!
What were those template questions? Are you going masonite and battens or CAD?