>>> They are by far way snap resistant look at jclark surfing mavericks. Is > that not enough proof there? Those boards are much stonger you cannot > argue with the science and chemicals of epoxy vs. standard resin. Look > what boats are made out of Epoxy. Because they are tougher and last > longer. Yes you do compromise on the dimension but you can have a custom > one drawn up. Just ask! 1) are we certain that jeff clark's surftech guns are made without stringers, or with even more lam layers that the average surftech? i don't think anyone wants 'ultra-lightness' when negotiating surf like mav's. 2)why doesn't surftech use stringers? i don't think they'll add much weight to boards that some describe as being too light, and it would quiet a lot of nay-sayers out there.
>>> Surftech's blow...i'd rather ride a bic or a swizzle. Beyond all the pros and cons of the custom vs. cloned surfboard arguments, I hope there will always be a place within mainstream surfing for fresh ideas to enter and be given an fair chance to pass or fail. The manufacturers mentioned in this thread are no exception... and only time will tell. At least in the past, our subculture has consistently demonstrated a general reluctance to simply participate as "buy and use" consumers of mass-produced surfboards. A great number of surfers have further enriched their experiences by taking advantage of the opportunity to mark their chosen craftsmen and participate in the design and construction of their boards, or even personally creating and testing craft of their own. It`s a deep, rich connection that echoes back to the origins of wave-riding itself. Wherever children play with toys, it`s always interesting to observe those who simply enjoy using them, and the ones who find even more pleasure in also taking them apart and then re-assembling them (sometimes in surprising ways). Perhaps there`s a lesson to be learned within these basic human differences regarding cloned vs. custom; a lesson that says more about us than the entire question of processes and materials.
Well said Dale. G30 must be 15 and posting from the school lib. To each his own whatever he/she will chose to ride. When it comes to companies such as Surftech I think it does the surf community a great deal of service when you look at other shapers that have come and gone. With regards to the classic shapers of the 60's they have had their names refreshed for the up and coming surfers of today with now the opportunity to have a "classic" in epoxy form that will look and last a lot longer than a polyester resin board. People worlwide have access to the classics now. Before Surftech was around people worldwide had not heard of these pioneers of surfing. With the edition of the Internet and people sufing the web most of the pioneers are not able to get the exposure like a company that Surftech has been able to provide. So I see many, many gains and a local "value add" to my community with Surftech. Now people all over can have the opportunity to sample many shapers creations all at a one point stop location www.surftech.com Lastly I would say that the Surftech epoxy models have saved me so much in ding repair and also not having to buy two boards a year.
i have the surftech Donald Takayama Model T. the shape is absolutely perfect for me.. but i cant stand the material and the way it affects the performance. so anyway, about dings. i've had my surftech board for about 2 months now and i already have 3 dings on it. and ive been surfing mushy beachbreaks. i dont even know how they happened... no rocks to hit, no people to collide with.. the damn thing just cracked in 3 different places.
>>> hey, i was wondering what all of your opinions were on the new surftech > boards. i just recently bought a 9'6 surftech board but i think its way > too light and way to buoyant. it behaves like a cork. anyway, just wanted > to hear your thoughts Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own. PS Some interesting news on the durability front. There is a person running a business reparing snapped Surftech boards in Ventura. She does a fine job. I know two people in the last year that have had her repair boards. It seems stringerless boards are prone to snapping regardless of the composition.
i completely agree. surftechs dont have the glide. they have no soul-they are evil. and forget surfing when there is any kind of wind or surface condition. (herb - as for the dings being stress cracks... i couldnt say.. it looks like my board was hit with something.. a rock or fin.. that kind of ding, but i dont know how that could have happened.. oh well.) -steve>>> Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel > the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but > the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind > condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own.
>>> Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel > the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but > the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind > condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own.>>> PS Some interesting news on the durability front. There is a person > running a business reparing snapped Surftech boards in Ventura. She does a > fine job. I know two people in the last year that have had her repair > boards. It seems stringerless boards are prone to snapping regardless of > the composition. nothing a little bondo won't fix-I got an old 7" stringerless liddle that has more dents, snaps, buckles and bondo on it than a tijuana taxi!
>>> They are by far way snap resistant look at jclark surfing mavericks. Is > that not enough proof there? Those boards are much stonger you cannot > argue with the science and chemicals of epoxy vs. standard resin. Look > what boats are made out of Epoxy. Because they are tougher and last > longer. Yes you do compromise on the dimension but you can have a custom > one drawn up. Just ask! 1) are we certain that jeff clark's surftech guns are made without stringers, or with even more lam layers that the average surftech? i don't think anyone wants 'ultra-lightness' when negotiating surf like mav's. 2)why doesn't surftech use stringers? i don't think they'll add much weight to boards that some describe as being too light, and it would quiet a lot of nay-sayers out there.
Surftech's blow...i'd rather ride a bic or a swizzle.
>>> Surftech's blow...i'd rather ride a bic or a swizzle. Beyond all the pros and cons of the custom vs. cloned surfboard arguments, I hope there will always be a place within mainstream surfing for fresh ideas to enter and be given an fair chance to pass or fail. The manufacturers mentioned in this thread are no exception... and only time will tell. At least in the past, our subculture has consistently demonstrated a general reluctance to simply participate as "buy and use" consumers of mass-produced surfboards. A great number of surfers have further enriched their experiences by taking advantage of the opportunity to mark their chosen craftsmen and participate in the design and construction of their boards, or even personally creating and testing craft of their own. It`s a deep, rich connection that echoes back to the origins of wave-riding itself. Wherever children play with toys, it`s always interesting to observe those who simply enjoy using them, and the ones who find even more pleasure in also taking them apart and then re-assembling them (sometimes in surprising ways). Perhaps there`s a lesson to be learned within these basic human differences regarding cloned vs. custom; a lesson that says more about us than the entire question of processes and materials.
Well said Dale. G30 must be 15 and posting from the school lib. To each his own whatever he/she will chose to ride. When it comes to companies such as Surftech I think it does the surf community a great deal of service when you look at other shapers that have come and gone. With regards to the classic shapers of the 60's they have had their names refreshed for the up and coming surfers of today with now the opportunity to have a "classic" in epoxy form that will look and last a lot longer than a polyester resin board. People worlwide have access to the classics now. Before Surftech was around people worldwide had not heard of these pioneers of surfing. With the edition of the Internet and people sufing the web most of the pioneers are not able to get the exposure like a company that Surftech has been able to provide. So I see many, many gains and a local "value add" to my community with Surftech. Now people all over can have the opportunity to sample many shapers creations all at a one point stop location www.surftech.com Lastly I would say that the Surftech epoxy models have saved me so much in ding repair and also not having to buy two boards a year.
i have the surftech Donald Takayama Model T. the shape is absolutely perfect for me.. but i cant stand the material and the way it affects the performance. so anyway, about dings. i've had my surftech board for about 2 months now and i already have 3 dings on it. and ive been surfing mushy beachbreaks. i dont even know how they happened... no rocks to hit, no people to collide with.. the damn thing just cracked in 3 different places.
Sounds like stress cracks?Herb.
>>> hey, i was wondering what all of your opinions were on the new surftech > boards. i just recently bought a 9'6 surftech board but i think its way > too light and way to buoyant. it behaves like a cork. anyway, just wanted > to hear your thoughts Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own. PS Some interesting news on the durability front. There is a person running a business reparing snapped Surftech boards in Ventura. She does a fine job. I know two people in the last year that have had her repair boards. It seems stringerless boards are prone to snapping regardless of the composition.
i completely agree. surftechs dont have the glide. they have no soul-they are evil. and forget surfing when there is any kind of wind or surface condition. (herb - as for the dings being stress cracks... i couldnt say.. it looks like my board was hit with something.. a rock or fin.. that kind of ding, but i dont know how that could have happened.. oh well.) -steve>>> Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel > the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but > the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind > condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own.
>>> Hey All, I do not own a surftech but have surfed one and I just don't feel > the glide! I have never enjoyed ultralight boards of any composition but > the added buoyancy is odd. And forget about surfing in any type of wind > condition (offshore or otherwise). That said to each his/her own.>>> PS Some interesting news on the durability front. There is a person > running a business reparing snapped Surftech boards in Ventura. She does a > fine job. I know two people in the last year that have had her repair > boards. It seems stringerless boards are prone to snapping regardless of > the composition. nothing a little bondo won't fix-I got an old 7" stringerless liddle that has more dents, snaps, buckles and bondo on it than a tijuana taxi!
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