sean rot: you say (morey sells close to 4 million dollars of there gripper board, if you want to do the math the retail is 35 bucks it also includes a how two dvd that we here at rot produced, so take 35 into 4 million and y will be the amount of people who bought these boards, if 10 percent of those decide to continue you are gonna be crying)>>>where are all those morey grippers stuck together? where are mike stewart`s manufactured? how many morey grippers are custom for each rider?>>>why do they refuse to rap about any of this? ?>>> why do bodyboards all look like hot-waffled clones? why do other belly ride things have variety of shapes and consturction?>>>i read tom morey used to beleive in surfing advancement. why are sponges still the same (basically) after all these years?>>>most of those 10 percent will outgrow sponges. They move on up to real board surfing. THEN YOU THE ONE GONNA BE CRYING.
Custom bodyboards are most certainly a part of the bodyboarding scene today, but due to the relatively limited number of shapers out there, the prices for most bodyboarders (a relatively young demographic even when you throw fogies like myself into the mix) are prohibitive, just as most younger surfers buy off the rack sticks instead of bucking up for customs at their local surf shop. An off-the-shelf bodyboard will run from between $100 and $200 depending on materials and extras involved. A custom, hand-shaped bodyboard will run from $200 to almost $300 once all is said and done. I firmly believe that once the number of quality shapers increases, the cost will come down and more experienced riders will be able to develop their own shapes for their own special performance needs. This is what I’ve been riding as of late from Marcos over at Toobs up in Pismo: Nose: 13" Width: 21.5" @ 15" Length: 42.5" Tail: 18" Gullwing Standard Channels One-Piece Rolled Tail 8lb polyeth deck Polypro Core Single Stringer 60/40, two-piece rails I’ve tweaked the wide point, nose and length over the last three boards and I’m now just finding what works best for me. Needless to say, there’s definitely something about your own custom ride, eh?
iam 48 years old use to get bugged by body boarders till i saw a few at an insane spot near my home.All i can say is they have to be seen to be believed!!Rot --keep up the good work and right on!!!
first mentioning mike stewart and grippers in the same sentence, is putting words into my post that were not there. if you can tube ride better than mike let me knwo, id like to come watch you ride, maybe ill even paint a nice picture and call it surf art and you can buy it from some over priced surf gallery, mike makes his own boards, his site is www.mikestewart.com, he has a nice site with interesing concepts about place most surfers have not ridden, it s like how many supposed surfers can even tube ride? isnt this the cherry part of the wave everyone admires, funny that most surfers can only dream about it the grippers are all rapped together in shrink wrap, on a pallet from china? why do some many people drive the same brand suv? why does every surfer at creak lowers, rincon oxnard, ride the same board, let be realistic how often have you seen some donovan type riding experementing? sounds like you were an x patriot, who used to fly the flag of the boogie nation, hate the game not the players, i be stoked if everyone just decided to quit, then i could walk down to creak and have a solo session at point or rights all by myself at some point bodyboarders will stop being that percentage that converts to support the stand up nation, they may surf but buying there product may not be a priority and if they do hey, the can always get there hurleys at marshalls www.rotvideo
All of my bodyboards are handmande in morrow bay. More thought goes into them then any of the surfboards I have ever been on or had a hand in making. I have spent many hrs in the factory on the Westside of Santa Cruz building surfboards with some of the greatest longboard shapers of all time. Michele Junod, Jonny Rice, Randy French. All of them think I am nuts for riding a sponge but the truth is, besides the mass production coming out of Asia research and design is far and beyond surfboards. If Surftech used beaded polypro foam blanks instead of beaded polystyrene then Ratboy would be busting airs over the moon. We know more about materials then surfboard manufacturers do because we like plastic and nylon. Next time you think about the inside of a sponge think about the inside of your snowboards because it is all edge and flex. Not drive off of a fin setup. It is the composite of Chris Won Toloa's stand up sponges that allow him to surf backdoor better then most of the pro surfers in hawaii. I am not being closed minded just the opposite, I ride everything, sticks, sponges, skims, and snowboards. Build things from the inside out and then maybe the surfboard shapers will be able to evolve past the generic templates that have reached every shper around the country. Nothing has changed in how surfboards are built. Except epoxy and that stuff sucks to ride. Evolution begins with an open mind. Look at Drop knee bodyboarding like a snowboarder carving and you might understand spongers and why they do what they do.
very well said!! when will the pedestrian diehards see beyond their narrow scope of the same basic stuff for the last 40 yrs?? You made a great point of flex and edge!! Too bad the surf population is focused on clothing, sunglasses and posing.The advances are few.greenough was riding a 1/2 inch board with flexible rocker over 35 yrs ago!No one rides the tube better than a bodyboard .Surfers are fashion posers and sheep and very conservative-- but they always look cool huh!!LOL
NCP- "Build things from the inside out"... that`s an excellent concept, one which I have trusted for over 30 years. The shorter a surfcraft is, and the wider its operating range, the more critical its dimensions. Every single inch (and fraction of) is important to the whole! The development of finless surfcraft carries this design philosophy to the logical extreme... all edges and flex. Having reached that point, it soon becomes clear there are a number of common characteristics shared between a variety of finless craft used for surfing... surfboards, bodyboards, kneeboards, paipos, surf mats, skimboards, kayaks, surf skis... and most basic: the human body. Then add the element of thoughtfully tuned, flexible design, and the act of wave riding becomes an entirely new experience.
With posts like this, its no wonder people are so retarded when it comes to the BBing world. Who ever started this post has no friggin clue and is completeley ignorant or just plain jealous that the BBing industry is getting bigger. Your gay ass fiberglass Tampon is made of the same shit minus the Fiberglass M&M candy ass coating. Our boards at least have Graphite composite stringers & we're proud to be BBers. Your just a lame ass follower. Like it or leave it, its Gods water & if you care so much to post this obviously ignorant message, you have a serious personal issue. Even Big Man Kelly Slater supports us. We are the reason yall started airs retard. we are forcing yall to do more with our inverted 900's & yall still think throwing buckets & cut backs are so great. Big whoop. Get used to us or whine & complain just like the surf community has for 20 fuckin years & guess what ? we're still here And we're older with Jobs & muscles we didnt have when we were 12. Chicks like our fins too. Learn!! Mind your own bees wax & learn to ride you 6 foot butt plug & leave us alone!
hey psycho-- Relax buddy body boards are cool with me.Some of us agree y with you!No need to get all angry! I hear shane Dorian is really into body boards?
sean rot: you say (morey sells close to 4 million dollars of there gripper board, if you want to do the math the retail is 35 bucks it also includes a how two dvd that we here at rot produced, so take 35 into 4 million and y will be the amount of people who bought these boards, if 10 percent of those decide to continue you are gonna be crying)>>>where are all those morey grippers stuck together? where are mike stewart`s manufactured? how many morey grippers are custom for each rider?>>>why do they refuse to rap about any of this? ?>>> why do bodyboards all look like hot-waffled clones? why do other belly ride things have variety of shapes and consturction?>>>i read tom morey used to beleive in surfing advancement. why are sponges still the same (basically) after all these years?>>>most of those 10 percent will outgrow sponges. They move on up to real board surfing. THEN YOU THE ONE GONNA BE CRYING.
Custom bodyboards are most certainly a part of the bodyboarding scene today, but due to the relatively limited number of shapers out there, the prices for most bodyboarders (a relatively young demographic even when you throw fogies like myself into the mix) are prohibitive, just as most younger surfers buy off the rack sticks instead of bucking up for customs at their local surf shop. An off-the-shelf bodyboard will run from between $100 and $200 depending on materials and extras involved. A custom, hand-shaped bodyboard will run from $200 to almost $300 once all is said and done. I firmly believe that once the number of quality shapers increases, the cost will come down and more experienced riders will be able to develop their own shapes for their own special performance needs. This is what I’ve been riding as of late from Marcos over at Toobs up in Pismo: Nose: 13" Width: 21.5" @ 15" Length: 42.5" Tail: 18" Gullwing Standard Channels One-Piece Rolled Tail 8lb polyeth deck Polypro Core Single Stringer 60/40, two-piece rails I’ve tweaked the wide point, nose and length over the last three boards and I’m now just finding what works best for me. Needless to say, there’s definitely something about your own custom ride, eh?
Son of Fred, using Morey as the benchmark for bodyboarding is the same as using SurfTech as the benchmark of surfing.
iam 48 years old use to get bugged by body boarders till i saw a few at an insane spot near my home.All i can say is they have to be seen to be believed!!Rot --keep up the good work and right on!!!
first mentioning mike stewart and grippers in the same sentence, is putting words into my post that were not there. if you can tube ride better than mike let me knwo, id like to come watch you ride, maybe ill even paint a nice picture and call it surf art and you can buy it from some over priced surf gallery, mike makes his own boards, his site is www.mikestewart.com, he has a nice site with interesing concepts about place most surfers have not ridden, it s like how many supposed surfers can even tube ride? isnt this the cherry part of the wave everyone admires, funny that most surfers can only dream about it the grippers are all rapped together in shrink wrap, on a pallet from china? why do some many people drive the same brand suv? why does every surfer at creak lowers, rincon oxnard, ride the same board, let be realistic how often have you seen some donovan type riding experementing? sounds like you were an x patriot, who used to fly the flag of the boogie nation, hate the game not the players, i be stoked if everyone just decided to quit, then i could walk down to creak and have a solo session at point or rights all by myself at some point bodyboarders will stop being that percentage that converts to support the stand up nation, they may surf but buying there product may not be a priority and if they do hey, the can always get there hurleys at marshalls www.rotvideo
All of my bodyboards are handmande in morrow bay. More thought goes into them then any of the surfboards I have ever been on or had a hand in making. I have spent many hrs in the factory on the Westside of Santa Cruz building surfboards with some of the greatest longboard shapers of all time. Michele Junod, Jonny Rice, Randy French. All of them think I am nuts for riding a sponge but the truth is, besides the mass production coming out of Asia research and design is far and beyond surfboards. If Surftech used beaded polypro foam blanks instead of beaded polystyrene then Ratboy would be busting airs over the moon. We know more about materials then surfboard manufacturers do because we like plastic and nylon. Next time you think about the inside of a sponge think about the inside of your snowboards because it is all edge and flex. Not drive off of a fin setup. It is the composite of Chris Won Toloa's stand up sponges that allow him to surf backdoor better then most of the pro surfers in hawaii. I am not being closed minded just the opposite, I ride everything, sticks, sponges, skims, and snowboards. Build things from the inside out and then maybe the surfboard shapers will be able to evolve past the generic templates that have reached every shper around the country. Nothing has changed in how surfboards are built. Except epoxy and that stuff sucks to ride. Evolution begins with an open mind. Look at Drop knee bodyboarding like a snowboarder carving and you might understand spongers and why they do what they do.
very well said!! when will the pedestrian diehards see beyond their narrow scope of the same basic stuff for the last 40 yrs?? You made a great point of flex and edge!! Too bad the surf population is focused on clothing, sunglasses and posing.The advances are few.greenough was riding a 1/2 inch board with flexible rocker over 35 yrs ago!No one rides the tube better than a bodyboard .Surfers are fashion posers and sheep and very conservative-- but they always look cool huh!!LOL
NCP- "Build things from the inside out"... that`s an excellent concept, one which I have trusted for over 30 years. The shorter a surfcraft is, and the wider its operating range, the more critical its dimensions. Every single inch (and fraction of) is important to the whole! The development of finless surfcraft carries this design philosophy to the logical extreme... all edges and flex. Having reached that point, it soon becomes clear there are a number of common characteristics shared between a variety of finless craft used for surfing... surfboards, bodyboards, kneeboards, paipos, surf mats, skimboards, kayaks, surf skis... and most basic: the human body. Then add the element of thoughtfully tuned, flexible design, and the act of wave riding becomes an entirely new experience.
With posts like this, its no wonder people are so retarded when it comes to the BBing world. Who ever started this post has no friggin clue and is completeley ignorant or just plain jealous that the BBing industry is getting bigger. Your gay ass fiberglass Tampon is made of the same shit minus the Fiberglass M&M candy ass coating. Our boards at least have Graphite composite stringers & we're proud to be BBers. Your just a lame ass follower. Like it or leave it, its Gods water & if you care so much to post this obviously ignorant message, you have a serious personal issue. Even Big Man Kelly Slater supports us. We are the reason yall started airs retard. we are forcing yall to do more with our inverted 900's & yall still think throwing buckets & cut backs are so great. Big whoop. Get used to us or whine & complain just like the surf community has for 20 fuckin years & guess what ? we're still here And we're older with Jobs & muscles we didnt have when we were 12. Chicks like our fins too. Learn!! Mind your own bees wax & learn to ride you 6 foot butt plug & leave us alone!
hey psycho-- Relax buddy body boards are cool with me.Some of us agree y with you!No need to get all angry! I hear shane Dorian is really into body boards?
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