So much of the industry blank hype centers around a company that says, "Dance with the guy that brought you" or they'll offer other shapers the good deals. Are foreign shapers already getting the good deals? Anybody who's saving their blank purchases out of loyalty could be gettin' a screwin'. Loyalty is a two way street.
You racist bastards. You don't seem to have any problems typing on keyboards made in Taiwan or reading posts off of monitors made in Malaysia, but somehow your surfboards are "precious" commodities that have to be "custom". Get off your high-ass pedestals. Your boards are no better than any off-the-shelf, overseas boards and the only thing that makes them special is the surfer with the talent to ride them. Don't blame the Chinese for your inadequacies. If they make it faster, cheaper, and better... Well, you're screwed.
So American shapers are trying to keep their AMERICAN surfboard sales, and that makes them "racist". S'cuse me, but where does your "precious" quote come from? What statement above is a "racist" statement? Where was that giant American custom keyboard and monitor industry displaced by Asians? Somebody must have hidden it. You're the only one here saying that Chinese workers are making better surfboards. You're wrong. Like most Chinese comodities, Chinese surfboards are adequate. Chinese "faster" comes from the assembly lines which their western bosses set up with their slave masters, and the worker's knowledge that throngs of starving Chinese are waiting at the factory gate wishing that they could work as slaves. The only thing sending board building jobs overseas is cost. Chinese just do it cheaper. Nobody said any of the crap you're trying to attribute to them. Nobody here displayed jealousy or contempt but you. People here are just trying to keep their jobs. So thanks for being compassionate to people losing their jobs, asshole.
But Billy Bob has a point. If you don't build it better then how do you continue to deserve your clientel? The US manufacturers have the worlds best access to the worlds best composite materials and yet how many surfboard companies have even looked at making a better product? The Chinese DO HAVE an Achilles heel! But it's up to the American builder to utilize his advantage. If you don't..........
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I agree that American, even western, boardmakers have grown complacent in lack of material innovation. I also think that the move to epoxy/EPS could be one of the last giant leaps. The board buying public is only beginning to see the advantages of epoxy/EPS. Awakening the public has only been held back by intransigent board makers. Surfers don't want what they've never seen. But epoxy/EPS boards are gaining a foothold. Exposure is happening. It's only a matter of time til boaard buyers force western makers to use this method. When that happens the epoxy/EPS will also go overseas. The other commodities whose manufacture has migrated overseas have gone the same route, and competition has ended up muddled and perverted. In cars, "better" has meant import regulations and electronic whizbangs that break and need repair in shops geographically close to end users. In petroleum "better" has meant 50 different government imposed gasoline formulas which foreign mass refiners can't keep up with. And nobody's riding better cars with cleaner gasoline than 10 years ago. This is just an example showing that raising technology doesn't keep the jobs where the buyers are after competition has its way. Nobody's saying that any foreigners can't do it as well. This dude said they could do it better. Methods need to change. Anybody can do that. I hope my countrymen, regardless of their skin color, do it first.
>>> Chinese "faster" comes from the assembly lines which their western bosses set >up with their slave masters, and the worker's knowledge that throngs of >starving Chinese are waiting at the factory gate wishing that they could work >as slaves. A glance at the CIA world factbook shows that the USA have a higher percentage living below the powerty line then China, although China have a much higher unemployed level. A few other interesting facts right off the sheet, China has a negative inflation(???) The US Industrial production growth rate: -3.7% (2001 est.) vs. 13.5% (2002 est.) for China. Think this is gonna change any time soon? The point? Dunno. I know one thing though, bashing the Chinese will not solve your problems. regards, Håvard
I'm not bashing the Chinese people, and I challenge you to quote where I did. ...well, I'm waiting... I'm bashing the tyranical system of government that makes slaves of them. And I'll bash it to you. Socialism SUCKS. Yeah, you can make 1 billion slaves work a whole day for supper. China is starting to let workers keep some of what they earn. As Americans have known all along, doing so provides production incentive. If a country's production rate starts at zero it can grow at a rapid pace indeed, especially by inducing capitalism. For Chinese, (THE PEOPLE) "better" is relative. While you're driving around in your Japanese car, and traveling to foreign lands these people are riding their grandfathers' bicycles to work. They don't even know its possible to live your way. Their autocratic government can keep making things better by such small increments that the Chinese people can take 1,000 years to catch up with you. "Bashing"? ...eat a fat one.
Spring of '02 went to Costco to get large jar o peanut butter. Saw 6'6" surfboards stacked high, Stood next to stack and looked around, Stuck thumb almost all the way through glass job, 'am not into racialism. Thanks gentlemen fer yer attention, Slim Railpickens