Herb, It would only be you who wood dare close the window! Herb has Surfer Mag, Vol.18, No 2, July 77'. Good for you Herb, the year was in the fall of 74'. At the time I was shaping as many as ten fish a day. Sometimes six. Sometimes eight. They were at that time, all in-between 5'4" and 6'4", and an occasional 6'6" for somebodys Orange Coast College fullback. Herb, I honestly still remember pulling the measureing tape out across that fatefull Rogers 7'4" R blank,to 6'6" (sorry Herb), and pulling that gun template off the wall for the nose into the wide pt., and then mixing and blending and matching a set of curves that I was used to adjusting, in, or out, for all of the custom fish orders, to get to that pointy nose fish that I first showed David, before I learned that he was about to leave, and that Dyno would no longer begin any new investments in advertising or anything else for that matter, that had anything to do with surfboards again. Skateboards, trucks, and urethane wheels were now the cat's meow. Dyno Surfboards, Full Force, and yes, Huntington Hawaii,(a molded surfboard), were now a part of surfing history. The one that got away? Not while I can still pick up my planer... have fun! SB
I'm surprised not to hear Ricky Ryan's name in all this... True, Mr. Mirandon had his split-tailed double-veed boards working in the La Jolla reefs. Ricky one night took his 7'-10" single fin Frye (fin/tail was wrecked) and cut the board along the line created by the tail patch. He glassed on a stubby single fin and over the next few days proceeded to rip apart a prominent left reef break in our area. His surfing really changed; it was like nothing else ever done. My friend Larry Crow told me that within days after that Stevie made the first true fish. I need to ask Larry if the fins were keels at that point yet. Soon after that at a prominent right just south of where Ricky was ripping, Jeff Ching (from Hawaii, attending CalWestern) asked Steve if he could try the "Fish". It was just as a joke; the thing was tiny, I'd say 4'10" or so. Jeff claimed he was going to stand up surf the thing. From what I saw, he dropped in, pulled up into an overhead wall right at take-off, disappeared, and re-emerged at the END of the wave. I walked about 20 steps so it was pretty long. He face surfed the thing like nothing else; again, upping the performance ante. At that point, as a kid, I felt some of the best surfers in the world were coming from there. These guys' stuff was so "futuristic". I was a grom just tripping on Bunker's "involvement" surfing: He'd take off and slide off the end of his board and with his hand on one of the tails, would bodysurf using the board as a handgun, recover the board, get to his knees and disappear into the barrel; all on this crystal-green backlit peeling wave. He'd come out of that on his feet, switch stance to do the cutback, and then rollercoaster, increasing speed to insane levels. Where the hell is Larry Duff? and later on, Brandon Hayes? Jimbo Frank? These guys, to this day ripped on waves like no one else ever had. Some guy filmed them, Guy Motyll (sp?); I'd like to see that again. There was a whole crew of surfers, RIPPING, and from my perspective as a grom, they never sought limelight, but they were legends. This stuff can only be pieced together by all the varied accounts. I'm sure someone is working on it...
Larry Bertleman.......ahhh definitely one of the pioneers of performance surfing and deserving of the name "rubberman" too bad his life went downhill after the glorydays.
Herbs post about the MR and Bertelmann twins really jogged my memory. I remember being surprised to hear from a friend that worked at T&C that Larry had broken off from Ben Aipa and was learning how to shape from Craig at T&C. It didnt take long before there were a few Bert shapes in the window and they sold like hot cakes. They had a stable of quite a few hot shapers back then, besides Larry, Glen Minami, Dennis Pang, Glen Pang and the odd BK shape on occasion.
I'd say somebody needs to make a documentary about the whole Fish thing...anybody know Stacy Peralta? He's going to need something for next year's Sundance film Festival. Pretty much everybody is still alive too, and apparently still kickin'...
.........I sold my Surf mag collection in the early 90s to a collector.I most likely had that issue,,,,,,,,,,but all that you read above was from my photo-memory,like it was an hour ago(nice gift that God gave me).I do remember Tom(of course you remember Tom?)showing it to me on the floor of the Dyno shop,and talking about it.As for the size I'm sure I was correct,but remember, "photo-memory" IT'S GETTING A BIT FADED WITH AGE.........did I get the color scheme correct? Red top and bottom w/ lg. yellow eagles? Nice to have a conversation with someone else that was there and knows the sh*"t on the real deal...isn't it...........got that Beatty,(I'M SURE IT WAS THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE WINDOW,who'd know I'd end up with it some 30 years later in great shape)tell Clyde........oh yeah,,,,,CORRECTION,,, it's not a Richardson shape..........sheesh....it's an Edwards shape.ALWAYS A PLEASURE TALKING W/ YOU MAGICMAN ,ADDS FLAVOR TO A WOULD BE BLAND BOARD !Herb
Smelly where are the photos of Rasta....
the pic's of rasta are in new transworld surf mag--his whole quiver
Herb, It would only be you who wood dare close the window! Herb has Surfer Mag, Vol.18, No 2, July 77'. Good for you Herb, the year was in the fall of 74'. At the time I was shaping as many as ten fish a day. Sometimes six. Sometimes eight. They were at that time, all in-between 5'4" and 6'4", and an occasional 6'6" for somebodys Orange Coast College fullback. Herb, I honestly still remember pulling the measureing tape out across that fatefull Rogers 7'4" R blank,to 6'6" (sorry Herb), and pulling that gun template off the wall for the nose into the wide pt., and then mixing and blending and matching a set of curves that I was used to adjusting, in, or out, for all of the custom fish orders, to get to that pointy nose fish that I first showed David, before I learned that he was about to leave, and that Dyno would no longer begin any new investments in advertising or anything else for that matter, that had anything to do with surfboards again. Skateboards, trucks, and urethane wheels were now the cat's meow. Dyno Surfboards, Full Force, and yes, Huntington Hawaii,(a molded surfboard), were now a part of surfing history. The one that got away? Not while I can still pick up my planer... have fun! SB
I'm surprised not to hear Ricky Ryan's name in all this... True, Mr. Mirandon had his split-tailed double-veed boards working in the La Jolla reefs. Ricky one night took his 7'-10" single fin Frye (fin/tail was wrecked) and cut the board along the line created by the tail patch. He glassed on a stubby single fin and over the next few days proceeded to rip apart a prominent left reef break in our area. His surfing really changed; it was like nothing else ever done. My friend Larry Crow told me that within days after that Stevie made the first true fish. I need to ask Larry if the fins were keels at that point yet. Soon after that at a prominent right just south of where Ricky was ripping, Jeff Ching (from Hawaii, attending CalWestern) asked Steve if he could try the "Fish". It was just as a joke; the thing was tiny, I'd say 4'10" or so. Jeff claimed he was going to stand up surf the thing. From what I saw, he dropped in, pulled up into an overhead wall right at take-off, disappeared, and re-emerged at the END of the wave. I walked about 20 steps so it was pretty long. He face surfed the thing like nothing else; again, upping the performance ante. At that point, as a kid, I felt some of the best surfers in the world were coming from there. These guys' stuff was so "futuristic". I was a grom just tripping on Bunker's "involvement" surfing: He'd take off and slide off the end of his board and with his hand on one of the tails, would bodysurf using the board as a handgun, recover the board, get to his knees and disappear into the barrel; all on this crystal-green backlit peeling wave. He'd come out of that on his feet, switch stance to do the cutback, and then rollercoaster, increasing speed to insane levels. Where the hell is Larry Duff? and later on, Brandon Hayes? Jimbo Frank? These guys, to this day ripped on waves like no one else ever had. Some guy filmed them, Guy Motyll (sp?); I'd like to see that again. There was a whole crew of surfers, RIPPING, and from my perspective as a grom, they never sought limelight, but they were legends. This stuff can only be pieced together by all the varied accounts. I'm sure someone is working on it...
i love hearing stories of the old days. keep 'em coming please.
Larry Bertleman.......ahhh definitely one of the pioneers of performance surfing and deserving of the name "rubberman" too bad his life went downhill after the glorydays.
I sa ricky ryan at the ranch last year ona toby fish-still at it...
Herbs post about the MR and Bertelmann twins really jogged my memory. I remember being surprised to hear from a friend that worked at T&C that Larry had broken off from Ben Aipa and was learning how to shape from Craig at T&C. It didnt take long before there were a few Bert shapes in the window and they sold like hot cakes. They had a stable of quite a few hot shapers back then, besides Larry, Glen Minami, Dennis Pang, Glen Pang and the odd BK shape on occasion.
I'd say somebody needs to make a documentary about the whole Fish thing...anybody know Stacy Peralta? He's going to need something for next year's Sundance film Festival. Pretty much everybody is still alive too, and apparently still kickin'...
.........I sold my Surf mag collection in the early 90s to a collector.I most likely had that issue,,,,,,,,,,but all that you read above was from my photo-memory,like it was an hour ago(nice gift that God gave me).I do remember Tom(of course you remember Tom?)showing it to me on the floor of the Dyno shop,and talking about it.As for the size I'm sure I was correct,but remember, "photo-memory" IT'S GETTING A BIT FADED WITH AGE.........did I get the color scheme correct? Red top and bottom w/ lg. yellow eagles? Nice to have a conversation with someone else that was there and knows the sh*"t on the real deal...isn't it...........got that Beatty,(I'M SURE IT WAS THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE WINDOW,who'd know I'd end up with it some 30 years later in great shape)tell Clyde........oh yeah,,,,,CORRECTION,,, it's not a Richardson shape..........sheesh....it's an Edwards shape.ALWAYS A PLEASURE TALKING W/ YOU MAGICMAN ,ADDS FLAVOR TO A WOULD BE BLAND BOARD !Herb
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