Back in "the day" guys who couldn't cut it were guys that couldn't do 10 a day - from nada, in-house blanks.
Guys like Phil Becker and Terry Martin have been known to do 3-4 finished shapes an hour. That`s with longer, over-sized blanks, starting from the rough and uncut, pure old-school style. We should be flaming them, too! Sideline question: since when has "flaming" become mere level-headed disagreement? Isn`t "flaming" supposed to be angry or inflammatory messages? Giving someone a verbal lashing in public? Name calling? Character assassination? It`s time we all threw big temper tantrums and cut off our internet connections. Maybe it`s time we let some new people start this whole www thing all over again.
Hey, sorry guys, I wasn't meaning to offend andy one. I am a production shaper myself, but I do longboards, and It takes me around and 1hour and 15 min to do one (hand planed) from start to finish. (54 min is my record) We have a machine where I work, and it is used mostly for stock (shop boards) and also team copys. I have no problem w/ machines and I think that they are pretty incredible to watch actually. I personally know what it is like to drag around a planer all day, and I what I ment by 7 boards a day for 14 days staright, was MAN THATS ALOT OF WORK! Either that or he was using a machine to at least get the rocker and foils close. In my opinion, shaping machines are cool, I mean hell who cares if big industry is pumping out massive amounts of surfboards... It's the grassroots backyard guys that spur the revolutions... just wait, someone will come up w/ something totally new, and you probably won't be able to shape it by machine. Then the industry will be screwed, and everyone will have to go back to building in their garages again! Revolutions go in circles.
For me.. A computor shape is just another tool to master...like spending 15 years of my life mastering a Skill Planer (still own 3). To make this clear for all, this is whats out there. 1. Profilers: not computors at all, they are Drumsanders or router bits mounted on two arcs that represent the rocker of the board. The shaper drags the router back and forth across the length of a blank and the result is a consistent bottom and deck rockers from board to board. They dont do the outline or rails, The deck can be rolled though, I have never seen one that does concave, So The rocker templates on the jig must match the rail rocker of the board NOT THE STRINGER ROCKER...this leaves the shaper to create the concave...thus stringer rocker. It is very popular in Austraila, New Zealand and WRV in North Carolina used/ use one with good results. 2: CAM Machines... These are the bulk of the computor machines in the USA (KKL, FOAMWORKS, ROUGHHOUSE, PRO-CAM etc) do bulk production for most Manufacturers in Ca and across US. They are big, expensive, Very accurate (if upkept well) converted CNC machines origionally built for cutting very high tolorance machine parts, usually metal. These machines are converted to cut boards. They usually cut 2 at a time and do it very efeicaintly. The boards are about halfway (time wise from being completly shaped after a machine is done with it. Most shapers take half an hour or more to finish them(including signing, and fin marks etc)These CAM machines are limited for the most part to changing only the length width and thickness of a design once a design is copied into the machine. I SAY COPIED BECAUSE FROM MY EXPIERIANCE, AND I HAVE USED ALL OF THEM, THESE ARE NOT DESIGNING TOOLS, To get a board cut on one of these a shaper must first shape and glass aboard. The board is probed"scanned into the memory of the machine" then the machine remembers that design and can cut it over and over. To make a legitimate change to the design of the board the shaper must RESHAPE A NEW MASTER AND SCAN IT IN AGAIN.Thus my statement that CAM computor machines are not for designing, but for copying designs. this leads into the final style of shaping machines currently in use. 3. CAD machines...The D stands for DESIGN. The most popular of these are the ones made by LUCIANO LEAO' of Brazil...yes Brazil. Lucaino was a ENT Surgean in Sau Paulo, and Longtime surfer/shaper as well. He grew Tired of medicine and began work on a simple cad program he would use to design surfboards, At the same time began prototypes of a smaller simpler machine that will read the files he designed and cut them. This turned into what he has today. ABOUT TWO DOZEN MACHINES OF HIS IN USE AROUND THE WORLD AND PROBABLY OVER 100 SHAPERS USING HIS PROGRAM. nO ONE CAN JUST START SHAPING BOARDS BY BUYING HIS PROGRAM, iT TAKES AN INTIMATE UNDERSTANDING OF BOARDDESIGN AND VISUALIZING OF THE CURVES YOU ARE SEEING ON THE SCREEN. Most top shapers after converting take over a year to get it dailed. sHAPERS USING IT PRETTY MUCH EXCLUSIVLY NOW ARE Rusty Preisendorfer, Matt Biolos (mayhem), Eric Arakarwa, Pat Rawson, Jeff Bushman, Town and Country, HIC , M-10, Todd Proctor, Peter Daniels Marcio SHARP EYE Zouvoi, And many Many others. There are Machines of his in CA, HI, SPAIN, PORTUGAL, BRAZIL,Florida (Greg Geisalman has one), S. AFRICA ,CANARY iS._And more. We users can change our designs INSTANTLY, save the change to a floppy disc and cut a board to see the change. We can work with team riders on sublte changes like never before...Its mastering a new tool. We are spending our time designing instead of relentlessly grinding away at foam. And for any naysayers who call "sellout" or "computor shaper" .."no soul"... I myself, will still challenge ANYONE in a SKILL 100 planer duel....Not many will beat me...and most of the ones who might are allready listed above. fuck surftech.
And there you have it in a nutshell boys! Nice mayhem.