Hey Finny, the plugs don't push thru the deck, the deck gets pushed down around the area where the system touches the deck. This require a repair to the deck and not the system,which can be eliminated by glassing a reenforcement patch over the area. This failure is caused only by surfers who tend to plant their heel right on the area when doing cutbacks. This can also be attributed to a bad glass job or a deck that is soft because the shaper took to much foam off the deck when thinning the shaped blank. The bottom line is FCS is the most used system in the surfboard industry today.Kokua
Howzit Chris, The Edge fin system might be the answer to this problem since not only can you switch fin shapes and sizes, but you can play with your fins toe in position. I've seen dog boards turn into magic boards with just a tiny adjustment of the toe in.Aloha, Kokua
The red x system does look good mabye I will try one day. In regaurdes to Lock Box I tried 3 recomended templates and adjusted them endlessly with no luck, very frustrated, sold a board that otherwise looked perfect. I now with less free time to surf have also less time to experiment with adjustable systems unfortunatly. I noticed that most of the pro surfers seem to use FCS still also, I am guessing they may have tried others as well.
Howzit Chris, Over here the setup that seems to work best for small fishes is Occy's for the rails and a gs trailer fin. I had a room mate that had every fin FCS made and he did a lot of testing in Indo ( good testing site due to the machine like waves). He would tell me about fins working really good at one spot but not work at others. Unfortunatlly he pased away in March and all his knowledge went with him. Aloha, Kokua
Ha, I am an FCS Troll, a silly one too I just ordered a board with Futures(mainly because the shaper has a template with them mostly because I really want to believe). I actually have had magic sessions with Futures fins it just had to be the right conditions the boards used with were maybe part of the problem/solution
heh! im about 3 sets away from having all the FCS fins now... ended up getting a great deal for most of the carbons not too long ago from a place going out of biz soo many fins... so soooooooo many fins and i'd have to agree on the occy's they're definitely a set to have if you have *any* fcs's
kokua, yes that is the most common problem with the FCS system. The boards have been glassed correctly and the shapes have not been overshpaped. This does happen quite frequently. The is a major shift here on the west coast away from FCS. Strange, we have seen much less failures with the Futures than with FCS here.
Howzit Finny, I have one person whose boards I repair that is so hard on that area, that the board looks like he's hitting it with a ball peen hammer. The rails would get vertical cracks that would eventually wrap around to the bottom. He had a board a few years back with the red-ex system before it was red-ex(Rip Curl I think) that was so crushed in that part of the board that the deck was about a 1/2" lower then originally. Just think about how that affected the fin system and in the end it was easier to remove the system, repair the area and put glass on fins on it. He now has glass ons on all his boards but he is still crushing the decks. What I have noticed is that it's a problem that relates to the surfer and not the system. This problem seems to happen to his boards with 4oz glass but there's no problems with his 6oz decks.Aloha, Kokua
Hey Finny, the plugs don't push thru the deck, the deck gets pushed down around the area where the system touches the deck. This require a repair to the deck and not the system,which can be eliminated by glassing a reenforcement patch over the area. This failure is caused only by surfers who tend to plant their heel right on the area when doing cutbacks. This can also be attributed to a bad glass job or a deck that is soft because the shaper took to much foam off the deck when thinning the shaped blank. The bottom line is FCS is the most used system in the surfboard industry today.Kokua
Howzit Chris, The Edge fin system might be the answer to this problem since not only can you switch fin shapes and sizes, but you can play with your fins toe in position. I've seen dog boards turn into magic boards with just a tiny adjustment of the toe in.Aloha, Kokua
The red x system does look good mabye I will try one day. In regaurdes to Lock Box I tried 3 recomended templates and adjusted them endlessly with no luck, very frustrated, sold a board that otherwise looked perfect. I now with less free time to surf have also less time to experiment with adjustable systems unfortunatly. I noticed that most of the pro surfers seem to use FCS still also, I am guessing they may have tried others as well.
Howzit Chris, Over here the setup that seems to work best for small fishes is Occy's for the rails and a gs trailer fin. I had a room mate that had every fin FCS made and he did a lot of testing in Indo ( good testing site due to the machine like waves). He would tell me about fins working really good at one spot but not work at others. Unfortunatlly he pased away in March and all his knowledge went with him. Aloha, Kokua
Ha, I am an FCS Troll, a silly one too I just ordered a board with Futures(mainly because the shaper has a template with them mostly because I really want to believe). I actually have had magic sessions with Futures fins it just had to be the right conditions the boards used with were maybe part of the problem/solution
heh! im about 3 sets away from having all the FCS fins now... ended up getting a great deal for most of the carbons not too long ago from a place going out of biz soo many fins... so soooooooo many fins and i'd have to agree on the occy's they're definitely a set to have if you have *any* fcs's
Yeah the OCCYs are great for drawn out turns and the Rustys drive and carve like champs!
kokua, yes that is the most common problem with the FCS system. The boards have been glassed correctly and the shapes have not been overshpaped. This does happen quite frequently. The is a major shift here on the west coast away from FCS. Strange, we have seen much less failures with the Futures than with FCS here.
shaun, YOu will love the Futures system. The main thing you will notice is the drive quality of the fins due to the full base.
Howzit Finny, I have one person whose boards I repair that is so hard on that area, that the board looks like he's hitting it with a ball peen hammer. The rails would get vertical cracks that would eventually wrap around to the bottom. He had a board a few years back with the red-ex system before it was red-ex(Rip Curl I think) that was so crushed in that part of the board that the deck was about a 1/2" lower then originally. Just think about how that affected the fin system and in the end it was easier to remove the system, repair the area and put glass on fins on it. He now has glass ons on all his boards but he is still crushing the decks. What I have noticed is that it's a problem that relates to the surfer and not the system. This problem seems to happen to his boards with 4oz glass but there's no problems with his 6oz decks.Aloha, Kokua
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