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Joined: 03/18/2004

how does one enter a photo to the user name?

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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

Hi,

It's kinda like you'd add a pic to a post - you click on Edit Profile in the menu bar above, then go to User Profile - not View your User Profile but the other one under the graphic.

Go down the page a ways, you'll see 'Upload new image' - click on 'browse' to do that, then pick one you want on your computer and follow the directions for that. Click the 'Make Profile Changes' button on the lower right and that should do it....

hope that's of use

doc...............

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keithmelville's picture
Joined: 03/18/2004

Hey Doc -- I'm getting old and my eyesight is going -- what IS your picture of, anyway??

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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

Heh...that's not a very good photo either. Doesn't really catch my profile all that well either......



Just your basic marsh rat, that's me......

I gotta say, it's a helluva nice thing being able to shoot a pic straight from my hard drive to the forum, without having to futz with FTP and all, at least overtly. Mike did one helluva job, every bell and whistle a Yankee boy could want....

doc...........

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keithmelville's picture
Joined: 03/18/2004

Aha! Now I can see it. Yes, they get kinda small and jaggy. Easier to see at full size. How do you get a picture IN the post instead of as an attachment? I tried it but it didn't seem to do the same thing as yours.

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Doc,

How about this one?



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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

Ah, there we are..... I thought I had a smaller image in the profile settings, sorry about that.

Meanwhile, back at inserting images into posts- Lets say you want to put in a pic-
First, I'm assuming you're in the Markup post style. Just so we're on the same...ahem...screen .
Look down and there is the attachment ( blank area) - Browse - Inline check box thing - Upload Attachment button

Check ( click on ) the Inline box, click on Browse. pick a graphic, click on Open, click the Upload Attachment button. Shazam, you got a little thing down below that has a graphics icon, a graphics name, a size, a box that reads Inline right after it and a Delete Attachment button.

Okay, one of those wasn't the one you wanted? Delete it and go get another one. If one isn't inline and you want it to be, ok, click on the inline box.

Now, you're ready to start sticking it...or them...in.

Put the cursor where you want the image to be...how about Right Here.

How did I do that? I clicked on the square box thingie on the top right of the toolbar, which gave me a popup box that read Insert Image. There were two possibilities- Image Location and Inline Image. Click the one that sez Inline image and the box changes to Image Location, Inline Image and the names of your uploaded image(s) - click alongside the one you want to put there, click Submit and there it is.

Other cute image tricks...... which I am finding out as I go along, so bear with me-

Here's a slightly different version of that image...larger, but I really am not crazy about it




There is what appears to be a shrink/stretch thing you can do with the graphics, but it doesn't carry into the Preview.

You can also toss in a horizontal

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line ( immediately to the left of the Image thingie in the toolbar) or make a

Quote:



quote with attributions



(you'll have to click to the end of it to get out of quotes - clicking again gives you a nested quote)
  • A
  • Bulleted
  • List
(click on the bulleted list thing in the toolbar to start and finish) or
  1. a
  2. Numbered
  3. List
Indents and Outdents..... links and all kindsa cool stuff. Damned if I know what Outdent does.... but
[indent]
Indent this and
then
hit [/indent]
Outdent to get you back....Now I get it.

Okay, that was fun. And thanks, Mike, for bringing that oversized graphic to my attention.

Best

doc................
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johnmellor's picture
Joined: 03/17/2004

Doc -

I see whay you mean about the new site having more features than some word processors. Thanks for the tutorial!

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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

De nada, John.

If I'm not mistaken, it's really a rather nice little WYSIWYG HTML editor, and I'd be real curious to see what sort of code it's producing.And, for that matter, what sort of code one can insert and how - though I'll be damned if I know why I'd do it.

Oh, a little more info, which I blundered into by playing with the setup.

Let's say you want to put in a link, but you don't want to just put in the link itself as text. Well, you can do a few cool things......

First, the easy way - just copy and paste the link. Copy it in another window and you have that cute little clipboard deal up top of the menu bar... voila' http://fbates.home.comcast.net/

Second, lets do it with our own text instead of that rather boring http stuff. Type in the name of the link, highlight it, click on that link icon and when the little box with the http:// whatsit box comes up, either type in the link or highlight the http:// and paste ( hit < ctrl-v> ) and again, it's a voila' moment.

The Cold Corner

Wouldn't that be cool for zorching off from a print definition to a graphic?

Ok, now lets see if I can get away with this -

First, stick in an inline image, say this one.....



do the link thing to it and hey, it's a link.

Though it does eat more of Mike's bandwidth than a plain link like the other two types, so use with great discretion.

Other stuff- shortcut keys.

will get you in and out of italics : use it once to start italics and then type it in again to get back to normal text , works the same way for bold and for underlined and you can combine them. Do Not hit ...trust me on this one. It refreshes the page and that loses everything you've typed since your last Preview Post. There may be other shortcut keys, but these are plenty for me so far.

Using the spellcheck will give you odd words underlined in red at the top of the page - click on one to find suggested other words in a pop-up box. You can also add words to that dictionary list, like Swaylock...dunno if the custom dictionary is custom to me or custom to Swaylock's in general- see if it's on yours now, as I added 'swaylock' to mine. As a moderator, your super-powers may have more zap than what I got. Also, graphics don't show up in spellcheck mode - don't worry, hit Preview Post and they'll come back.

Okay, I've played with this enough for one afternoon.

hope some of that is of more use than just watching an old waterrat at play

doc.............

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johnmellor's picture
Joined: 03/17/2004

Doc -

Thanks again. I think I'm getting the hang of it. A couple of image files I've tried to add may have been too large although I didn't receive an error code or anything - they just didn't show up in the post. I was able to add an attachment that had to be opened manually. I'll reread your tutorial.

As moderator, I have no magical powers, access to codes or administrative privileges. As is probably obvious, you know far more about the operation of the system than I do. Mike simply asked us to let him know of any blatant conduct that should receive his attention. One of his concerns was people posting porn spam or whatever.

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Joined: 03/18/2004

Ok, one thought on that, John, is that some formats, say anything other than GIF or JPG may not upload -

Ok part 2 - just tried it with a 900 KB BMP file, 300 KB is max size , got a Your attachment did not upload: The attachment exceeds the maximum attachment size (300 KB) message.

Trying it with a 151KB BMP file ( went from 24 bit color to a 16 color bitmapped file )

Which worked, and showed up in my editing window before I removed it, so BMPs work at least to that point.

I'd say, shoot for JPG format, no more than 100 KB per image and no more than 300 KB of total image file sizes per post? Probably couldn't fit in anything bigger than 700-800 pixels wide anyhow, and in a JPG ( unless it's kinda odd) you'd have problems making it that big if you used a reasonable compression level. Smaller is, of course, better.

Compression level? Yeah. See, what a JPG ( and to a lesser extent a GIF ) does is look for patterns. If. let's say, you have a box on a white background, then when the image is scanned line by line, left to right, you get a black dot appearing every now and then in a repeating pattern.



This might give you the idea. What JPG and maybe GIF software does is use Fast Fourier Transform software to look for those repeating patterns in a graphic, write Fourier Transform equations for that and then the JPG file is really a list of those equations plus some other information, not ( as in a BMP bit-mapped file or a TIFF Tagged Image File Format, I think, file ) every individual pixel getting a color tag, which makes HUGE image file sizes.

As an aside, your scanner may use something like a TIFF when it scans something, it's as perfect a reproduction as you can get within the limits of the hardware.

Ok, why am I going on with all this? Well, JPGs are a compromise between compression level and reproduction quality. You can have small files or you can have perfect reproduction of the original. Or, some software like Irfanview and some scanner software, that'll let you choose the compression level: how close to perfect is good enough, how good a set of Fourier Transforms you really need to use. Sometimes it's a slide control, sometimes you can punch in a number, sometimes you have to go looking in Advanced settings. The corners and edges and everything might not be perfectly sharp, there may be a bit of color bleed, that sort of thing, if you go with a lower setting and a smaller file size. I generally figure if it's good enough for me without bifocals to understand, it's good enough.

Anyhow... hope that's of some use. Porn spam? How do ya think I got to know all this graphics stuff?

doc......

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johnmellor's picture
Joined: 03/17/2004

Doc - OK, I'll give this another try...

Ahh, forget it.

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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

Ah, John, how about this. Can you upload it to someplace you can link to, then maybe I can have a shot at it and play crash test dummy/coal mine canary to see if I can figure out why it isn't working? If you can't upload it someplace, shoot me a private message and mebbe we can figure out another way.

doc.....

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easternpacific's picture
Joined: 03/18/2004

easy w/ some help from a friend. Thanks Doc

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doc
Joined: 03/18/2004

De nada... and by George, I think he's got it.

best

doc..............

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