Hello, Thinking of going for a Grain wooden board kit..the Lovelace Thick lizzy model. Does anyone have experience/hearsay with Grain kits and/or the Lovelace Thick lizzy ? Thanks
No personal knowledge but they've been around awhile, and pretty sure they're the biggest name in wood kits. But I would ask over at www.woodboardforum.com, just to hear what the wood guys have to say. Brad Tucker posts over there, and he has some pretty popular kits out too, IIRC.
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I did one back in 2012. The pieces were machined well and the instructions were clear and easy to follow. My only concern was that the curves in the nose and tail didn’t flow very well. The nose was a bit wonky and when I did the tail I substituted a solid block between the deck and bottom shins and that turned out very nice. I didn’t use the epoxy resin that was supplied. The shame of it all is after I glassed the board Super Storm Sandy hit and I have yet to install the fin box. Perhaps some time soon since the house is now finished.
Thanks Huck. Surfifty, glad your house is together again. Odd, I did construction..back in the day; I'd feel more confident starting a house than a hollow wooden board, without the hand holding ! Do you think I can put in side bites, as the kit is a single fin ? Thanks
Side bites can be installed. You would need to place blocks into the board before glueing on the top. Be sure to map out the blocks so you can find them when installing the plugs for the fins.
I've never built a HWS board, but if I did I'd use Huck's method of doing the frame first
Beyond the boards Danny Hess makes, Ive never seen (in person) a hollow wood board that looks as if it was worth the effort. They always look like they have mashed potatoes for rails and no foil.
Id say make a solid wood board and chamber it.
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My personal 'mashed potato rails with no foil' collection
As stated ... in person.
I think your method is somewhat like Danny’s.
And the end products seem to be exceptions, not the rule.
As Huck mentioned it before (Thanks Huck!), I would like you to have a look at www.woodboardforum.com. since I'm administrator there (Nickname Olddude), I'm sure, you will get all the information you need there!
I personally never build from a kit, but a kit should be a good way to start. Brad Tucker sells kits, Grain sells kits, there may be others out too. finally there will be differences, but in general you get some cutted wood, put together a frame, plank deck and bottom and attach rails. This is an easy way, known as a solid rail build. There are several variations and methods, but I urge you to start with an easy shape, a kit and "solid-rails".
I'm not really a shaper, I claim myself more a builder and I never build with a kit. If you want to invest a little time, get yourself a version of the CAD board building software BoardCad.
Its quite self explanatory and you can create your own boards, copy existing boards, change slighty boards of others etc. Finally with board cad, and eventualy another program, you can print your own plans. If you have the plans, you basically have the same as buying a kit, because you just need to use the plan, transfer it to wood and cut it out. The advantage is, you can choose your own wood. And if you have access to balsa wood for a reasonable price, you do not really need very special tools, because balsa cut easily, even with a knife. A jigsaw is more or less all you need, even as a hand tools. A saw, and sandpaper and glue is all you need, with more tool its more convenient of course, like a nice plane etc.
Do not be afraid of the build itself, neither kit nor with BoardCad. Of course it is somethingnew, but the only thing you need is a little time and a little fun working with wood and/or creating something. Building a woody, especially with balsa (or pauwlonia wood) is not really difficult, you learn with each build, of course, but even your first board will ride and the feeling of riding your own board first time, compares to nothing ever experienced in surfing, you just should not start with something fancy, just build an easy shape with basic deck and bottom and rail contours.
Attached the pic and a link to my last build, the design process happened here on sways.
This is my first build ever, a balsa board, chambered:
You may recognize a little progress :)
This is mymost complicated, you can find here on Sways too:
Great advice and info.